Forever π 2 \dfrac{\pi}{2} ??

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What comes next in the following series π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2} can be expressed as p π q \,\dfrac{p\pi}{q} . How many digits does the p + q \,p+q have?


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The answer is 31.

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1 solution

Jon Haussmann
Mar 24, 2014

I think you are asking about the Borwein integrals .

Looks like only three guys answered this, I thought that Borwein integrals are very famous.

Haroun Meghaichi - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Hi, @Haroun Meghaichi could you please solve this one and write the solution as a comment. Thanks... :) 0 1 t 2014 ( 1 t ) 9999 d t . \int_0^1 t^{2014}(1-t)^{9999}\;dt.

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Using Beta function we get : B ( 2015 , 10000 ) = 2014 ! 9999 ! 12014 ! . \text{B}(2015,10000)= \frac{2014!9999!}{12014!}.

Haroun Meghaichi - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Haroun Meghaichi That's correct. You're smart. I'm really sorry if I tested you, I just want to make sure that you answered this question without cheating. Actually, I only regard two people who answer this problem so far, you and Mr. Haussmann. Two thumbs up for you Haroun. d(^_^)b

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

You're really awesome Mr. Haussmann! Two thumbs up!! d(^_^)b

Consider the following sequence: U 1 = 0 sin x x d x = π 2 , U 2 = 0 sin x x sin ( x 3 ) ( x 3 ) d x = π 2 , U 3 = 0 sin x x sin ( x 3 ) ( x 3 ) sin ( x 5 ) ( x 5 ) d x = π 2 , U 4 = 0 sin x x sin ( x 3 ) ( x 3 ) sin ( x 5 ) ( x 5 ) sin ( x 7 ) ( x 7 ) d x = π 2 , U 5 = 0 n = 1 5 sin ( x 2 n 1 ) ( x 2 n 1 ) d x = π 2 , U 6 = 0 n = 1 6 sin ( x 2 n 1 ) ( x 2 n 1 ) d x = π 2 , U 7 = 0 n = 1 7 sin ( x 2 n 1 ) ( x 2 n 1 ) d x = π 2 , AND U 8 = 0 n = 1 8 sin ( x 2 n 1 ) ( x 2 n 1 ) d x = 467807924713440738696537864469 935615849440640907310521750000 π . \begin{aligned} U_1&=\int_0^\infty\frac{\sin x}{x}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_2&=\int_0^\infty\frac{\sin x}{x}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_3&=\int_0^\infty\frac{\sin x}{x}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{5}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{5}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_4&=\int_0^\infty\frac{\sin x}{x}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{3}\right)}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{5}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{5}\right)}\cdot\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{7}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{7}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_5&=\int_0^\infty\prod_{n=1}^5\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_6&=\int_0^\infty\prod_{n=1}^6\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ U_7&=\int_0^\infty\prod_{n=1}^7\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}dx=\frac{\pi}{2},\\ \color{#D61F06}{\text{AND}}\\ U_8&=\int_0^\infty\prod_{n=1}^8\frac{\sin \left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}{\left(\frac{x}{2n-1}\right)}dx=\color{#3D99F6}{\frac{467807924713440738696537864469}{935615849440640907310521750000}\pi}.\\ \end{aligned} In mathematics, these integrals are called Borwein integrals . This fact is discovered by David and Jonathan Borwein. In general similar integrals have value π 2 \dfrac{\pi}{2} whenever the numbers 3 , 5 , 7 3, 5, 7\cdots are replaced by positive real numbers such that the sum of their reciprocals is less than 1 1 . In the example above, 1 2 + 1 3 + + 1 13 < 1 \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \cdots + \frac{1}{13} < 1 , but 1 2 + 1 3 + + 1 15 > 1 \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \cdots + \frac{1}{15} > 1 .

Fun fact : After this was discovered by David and Jonathan Borwein, Jonathan verified that the computer algebra software package Maple reports the correct values for all these integrals — and then, as a practical joke, reported this to Maple as a “bug” in the software. Maple computer scientist Jacque Carette reports that “I must have spent three days on this project before I figured out that Jon had tricked me”.


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Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Please give me a good reason why the answer is not 1, its forming an AP, GP, and everything....

Satvik Golechha - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Isn't the Borwein integrals a good reason?? If you think not, then you can try to answer this series:

What comes next in the following series 2 , 4 , 6 , ? 2, 4, 6, ?

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Tunk-Fey Ariawan I still think a better answer would be 8....

Satvik Golechha - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha There's a lot of better answers for this series. My favorite answer is 999 , 999 , 999 999,999,999 .

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Tunk-Fey Ariawan How 999,999,999?

Aabhas Mathur - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Aabhas Mathur T h e S e r i e s H a s I n f i n i t e S o l u t i o n s , O n e O f T h e P o s s i b l e G e n e r a l T e r m W h i c h C a n G e n e r a t e T h i s S e q u e n c e I s , T n = ( π 2 ) . x [ n / 8 ] , ( x R { 0 } ) [ a ] r e p r e s e n t s g r e a t e s t i n t e g e r l e s s t h a n o r e q u a l t o a F r o m T h e G i v e n G e n e r a l T e r m W e G e t T h e S e r i e s π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 , π 2 . x N o w A s x c a n b e a n y r e a l n u m b e r w e c a n h a v e i n f i n i t e n u m b e r o f s o l u t i o n s The\quad Series\quad Has\quad Infinite\quad Solutions,\\ One\quad Of\quad The\quad Possible\quad General\\ Term\quad Which\quad Can\quad Generate\quad This\quad \\ Sequence\quad Is,\\ { T }_{ n }\quad =\quad (\frac { \pi }{ 2 } )\quad .\quad { x }^{ [n/8] }\quad ,\quad (x\in R-\{ 0\} )\\ [a]\quad represents\quad greatest\quad integer\quad less\\ than\quad or\quad equal\quad to\quad 'a'\\ From\quad The\quad Given\quad General\quad Term\\ We\quad Get\quad The\quad Series\\ \frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } ,\frac { \pi }{ 2 } .x\\ Now\quad As\quad x\quad can\quad be\quad any\quad real\quad number\\ we\quad can\quad have\quad infinite\quad \\ number\quad of\quad solutions\\

Harsh Depal - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Harsh Depal I would not discuss anything to you until you can explain, who is another Harsh Depal who also answer this problem.

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 2 months ago

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@Tunk-Fey Ariawan Population Of India is Around 1.237 billion So it is very much possible that two people have same name and same surname How Do I know who is Other Harsh Depal There might be many other harsh depal you can search on google or facebook

Harsh Depal - 7 years, 2 months ago

Jeez

Robert Fritz - 7 years, 2 months ago

Oh my god

shubham kr - 7 years, 2 months ago

Woah! Looks interesting. :D

Pranav Arora - 7 years, 2 months ago

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