Let f ( x ) be a polynomial with integer coefficients defined by f : R + → R + satisfying x f ( x ) = f ( x ) f ( f ( x ) )
Find the sum of all possible values of f ( 3 ) subject to f ( 3 ) < 1 0 0 .
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Can You Please explain the concept of deg(f(x)) from a beginner's point of view..
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Let us define f ( x ) = a n x n + a n − 1 x n − 1 + ⋯ + a 1 x + a 0 deg ( f ( x ) ) is the degree of f ( x ) , which is the largest power of the polynomial. Thus, deg ( f ( x ) ) in this case is n .
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I Agree deg(f(x)) is the greatest power but how did you write 3d=2+d^2..?
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@Vaibhav Agrawal – If deg ( f ( x ) ) = d , then: deg ( f ( x ) 3 ) = 3 d deg ( f ( f ( x ) ) ) = d 2
If deg ( g ( x ) ) = d , then deg ( x 2 g ( x ) ) = d + 2 . Thus, deg ( x 2 f ( f ( x ) ) ) = d 2 + 2
We finally arrive at the conclusion 3 d = d 2 + 2 .
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@Daniel Liu – What If it were a quartic? Or is that not possible
Excellent approach
A very interesting solution. One thing, though: "Since the polynomial satisfies f: R+ -> R+, we must have a c Z+..." Why is this the case? What if a is pi? What's wrong with pi? You plug in 3 for x and you get 9pi, which is still in R+. So is anything else in R.
Thanks
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f ( x ) is a polynomial with integer coefficients.
missed it by that much ........ : ( forgot the 3 ..... :'(
Liked the sum.Did it in the same way.Beautiful presentation,upvoted!!
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First, since f ( x ) f ( f ( x ) ) is always positive, we can square both sides to obtain x 2 f ( x ) 2 = f ( x ) f ( f ( x ) ) . Clearing denominators gives f ( x ) 3 = x 2 f ( f ( x ) ) ( ∗ )
Let deg ( f ( x ) ) = d . We can see that 3 d = 2 + d 2 , or d 2 − 3 d + 2 = 0 This factors as ( d − 1 ) ( d − 2 ) = 0 , so d = 1 , 2
We can now let f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x + c . With this format, we can cover all polynomials with degree ≤ 2 .
First, notice that the constant term of the L H S of ( ∗ ) is c 3 , while the constant term of the R H S is 0 . Thus, we are forced to make c = 0
Thus f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x . We cannot compare the corresponding coefficients easily anymore, so we are forced to just expand it.
Plugging in f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x , we see that ( a x 2 + b x ) 3 = x 2 ( a ( a x 2 + b x ) 2 + b ( a x 2 + b x ) ) Expanding gives a 3 x 6 + 3 a 2 b x 5 + 3 a b 2 x 4 + b 3 x 3 = a 3 x 6 + 2 a 2 b x 5 + a b ( b + 1 ) x 4 + b 2 x 3
Looking at the x 3 term, we see that b 3 = b 2 , so b = 0 , 1
If b = 1 , then looking at the x 5 term tells us that 3 a 2 = 2 a 2 , so a = 0 Thus one solution is f ( x ) = x
If b = 0 , then everything expect for the x 6 term disappears, and we are left with a 3 x 6 = a 3 x 6 which is always true. Thus, a can be any integer. Our second family of solutions is thus f ( x ) = a x 2
Since the polynomial satisfies f : R + → R + , we must have a ∈ Z + .
Now all we need to do is find the sum of all possible values of f ( 3 ) under 1 0 0 . Clearly, if f ( x ) = x , then f ( 3 ) = 3 . If f ( x ) = a x 2 , then f ( 3 ) = 9 a . Since 9 a < 1 0 0 , we must have a ≤ 1 1 . Thus, any polynomial f ( x ) = a x 2 with a = 1 → 1 1 works.
We sum up all of the f ( 3 ) from this family of solutions: 9 ( 1 + 2 + ⋯ + 1 0 + 1 1 ) = 9 ⋅ 2 1 1 ⋅ 1 2 = 5 9 4 . Thus, our answer is 5 9 4 + 3 = 5 9 7 .