A rough slide

A 1 kg \SI{1}{\kilo\gram} bead slides from rest under the pull of gravity from the point ( 1 m , 0 m ) \left(\SI{-1}{\meter}, \SI{0}{\meter}\right) to the point ( 0 m , 1 m ) \left(\SI{0}{\meter}, \SI{-1}{\meter}\right) along a wire in the shape of a circle centered on the origin, as shown above.

The wire is rough, and exerts a retarding tangential friction force F f = μ F normal F_f = \mu F_\textrm{normal} on the bead, with μ = 1 2 . \mu = \frac{1}{2}.

Find the speed of the bead ( ( in m/s ) \text{m/s}) when it arrives at ( 0 m , 1 m ) . \left(\SI{0}{\meter},\SI{-1}{\meter}\right).


Note: g = 10 m / s 2 . g = \SI[per-mode=symbol]{10}{\meter\per\second\squared}.


The answer is 1.37.

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Mark Hennings
Apr 18, 2017

Let θ \theta be the angle that the radius to the particle makes with the downward vertical, r r the radius and m m the mass of the particle. If N N is the normal reaction, and F = μ N F = \mu N the friction force on the particle, then the radial and transverse equations of motion are: N m g cos θ = m r θ ˙ 2 μ N m g sin θ = m r θ ¨ N - mg\cos\theta \; = \; mr\dot\theta^2 \hspace{2cm} \mu N - mg\sin\theta \; = \; mr\ddot{\theta} Eliminating N N yields m r θ ¨ μ m r θ ˙ 2 = m g ( μ cos θ sin θ ) θ ¨ μ θ ˙ 2 = g r ( μ cos θ sin θ ) d d θ [ 1 2 θ ˙ 2 e 2 μ θ ] = g r ( μ cos θ sin θ ) e 2 μ θ \begin{aligned} mr\ddot\theta - \mu mr \dot\theta^2 & = mg(\mu\cos\theta - \sin\theta) \\ \ddot\theta - \mu \dot\theta^2 & = \frac{g}{r}\big(\mu\cos\theta - \sin\theta) \\ \frac{d}{d\theta}\big[\tfrac12\dot\theta^2 e^{-2\mu\theta}\big] & = \frac{g}{r}(\mu\cos\theta - \sin\theta)e^{-2\mu\theta} \end{aligned} Since the particle starts at rest when θ = 1 2 π \theta = \tfrac12\pi , the particle's speed at angle θ \theta is v ( θ ) 2 = 2 r g e 2 μ θ θ 1 2 π ( sin θ μ cos θ ) e 2 μ θ d θ v(\theta)^2 \; = \; 2rge^{2\mu\theta}\int_{\theta}^{\frac12\pi}(\sin\theta - \mu\cos\theta)e^{-2\mu\theta}\,d\theta With r = 1 r=1 , g = 10 g=10 , μ = 1 2 \mu=\tfrac12 , the particle's speed at the bottom is v ( 0 ) v(0) , where v ( 0 ) 2 = 10 0 1 2 π ( 2 sin θ cos θ ) e θ d θ = 5 ( 1 3 e 1 2 π ) v(0)^2 \; = \; 10\int_0^{\frac12\pi}(2\sin\theta - \cos\theta)e^{-\theta}\,d\theta \; = \; 5\big(1 - 3e^{-\frac12\pi}\big) and hence the answer is v ( 0 ) = 1.37179 v(0) = \boxed{1.37179} .

I'm impressed. How complex do you think the path can get before purely analytical solutions become impossible? Or perhaps infeasible, if not strictly impossible.

Steven Chase - 4 years, 1 month ago

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If you look at my further note, I set out a fairly general case. Obtaining the first integral of the equations explicitly - basically, the energy equation - requires us to perform an integral that could be seriously difficult, if not impossible.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago

I just have a question, if the path would have been say a Sine wave instead of a circle how would we have dealt with that ?

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Friction F \mathbf{F} would act tangentially to the curve, and the normal reaction N \mathbf{N} would act along the principal normal. If the curve was the shape y = f ( x ) y = f(x) , then the position vector of the particle would be r = ( x , f ( x ) ) \mathbf{r} \; = \; (x,f(x)) and we can differentiate this twice to obtain the equation m r ¨ = N + F + m g ( 0 , 1 ) m\ddot{\mathbf{r}} \; = \; \mathbf{N} + \mathbf{F} + mg(0,-1) The only unknown on the RHS is the modulus of N \mathbf{N} (all the vector directions can be expressed in terms of f ( x ) f(x) ). We could take components and thereby eliminate this, obtaining a differential equation for x x .

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Actually I am a bit confused about the last equation. How differentiating twice we obtain that. It would be very helpful for me if you please explain it a bit if you have time.

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Aditya Narayan Sharma Suppose that the wire has shape given by the equation y = f ( x ) y = f(x) , where f f has a minimum at x = 0 x=0 . The position vector of the particle is r = ( x f ( x ) ) r ˙ = ( 1 f ( x ) ) x ˙ r ¨ = ( 1 f ( x ) ) x ¨ + ( 0 f ( x ) ) x ˙ 2 \begin{aligned} \mathbf{r} & = {x \choose f(x)} \\ \dot{\mathbf{r}} & = {1 \choose f'(x)} \dot{x} \\ \ddot{\mathbf{r}} & = {1 \choose f'(x)} \ddot{x} + {0 \choose f''(x)} \dot{x}^2 \end{aligned} and we must have N = λ ( f ( x ) 1 ) F = μ λ ( 1 f ( x ) ) \mathbf{N} \; = \; \lambda {-f'(x) \choose 1} \hspace{2cm} \mathbf{F} \; = \; \mu\lambda {1 \choose f'(x)} for some function λ \lambda . Recall that F \mathbf{F} has to be tangential to the curve, while N \mathbf{N} has to be normal to the curve and upward-pointing. The equation of motion is m r ¨ = N + F + m g ( 0 1 ) m ( 1 f ( x ) ) x ¨ + m ( 0 f ( x ) ) x ˙ 2 = λ ( f ( x ) 1 ) + μ λ ( 1 f ( x ) ) + m g ( 0 1 ) \begin{aligned} m\ddot{\mathbf{r}} & = \mathbf{N} + \mathbf{F} + mg{0 \choose -1} \\ m{1 \choose f'(x)} \ddot{x} + m{0 \choose f''(x)} \dot{x}^2 & = \lambda {-f'(x) \choose 1} + \mu\lambda {1 \choose f'(x)} + mg{0 \choose -1} \end{aligned} Taking the scalar product of this equation with ( 1 f ( x ) ) {1 \choose f'(x)} and ( f ( x ) 1 ) {-f'(x) \choose 1} , we obtain m ( 1 + f ( x ) 2 ) 2 x ¨ + m f ( x ) f ( x ) x ˙ 2 = μ λ ( 1 + f ( x ) 2 ) m g f ( x ) m f ( x ) x ˙ 2 = λ ( 1 + f ( x ) 2 ) m g \begin{aligned} m\big(1 + f'(x)^2\big)^2 \ddot{x} + mf'(x)f''(x)\dot{x}^2 & = \mu\lambda\big(1 + f'(x)^2\big) - mgf'(x) \\ mf''(x)\dot{x}^2 & = \lambda\big(1 + f'(x)^2\big) - mg \end{aligned} Eliminating λ \lambda yields ( 1 + f ( x ) 2 ) x ¨ + ( f ( x ) f ( x ) μ f ( x ) ) x ˙ 2 = g ( μ f ( x ) ) d d x [ 1 2 ( 1 + f ( x ) 2 ) e 2 μ tan 1 f ( x ) x ˙ 2 ] = g ( μ f ( x ) ) e 2 μ tan 1 f ( x ) \begin{aligned} \big(1 + f'(x)^2\big)\ddot{x} + \big(f'(x)f''(x) - \mu f''(x)\big)\dot{x}^2 & = g\big(\mu - f'(x)\big) \\ \frac{d}{dx}\Big[\tfrac12\big(1 + f'(x)^2\big)e^{-2\mu\tan^{-1}f'(x)} \dot{x}^2\Big] & = g\big(\mu - f'(x)\big)e^{-2\mu \tan^{-1}f'(x)} \end{aligned} At this point, we would need to know the explicit form of f ( x ) f(x) to proceed further...

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Mark Hennings Thanks a lot, This was an awesome explanation.

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Aditya Narayan Sharma How do you move from step 3 to step 4? How does e 2 μ θ e^{-2\mu\theta} appear in the step 4?

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Rohit Gupta It is a matter of looking for an integrating factor. Since d d θ ( 1 2 θ ˙ 2 ) = θ ¨ \frac{d}{d\theta} \big(\tfrac12\dot\theta^2\big) = \ddot\theta , multiplying by e 2 μ θ e^{-2\mu\theta} is what it takes to make the LHS of the equation exact.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Mark Hennings Well, this is a very clever adjustment. Is there a method to follow to find such integrating factors or one has to do the hit and trail approach to reach to it?

Moreover, in the second equation, μ N m g sin θ = m r θ ¨ \mu N - mg\sin\theta \; = \; mr\ddot{\theta} , should it be m g sin θ μ N = m r θ ¨ mg\sin\theta - \mu N \; = \; mr\ddot{\theta} ? This is because the speed is increasing, thus the forces in the direction of the speed must be greater.

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Rohit Gupta Look up solving first order differential equations for the technique for finding integrating factors. In brief, the integrating factor for the equation d y d x + a ( x ) y = b ( x ) \frac{dy}{dx} + a(x)y \; = \; b(x) is e a ( x ) d x e^{\int a(x)\,dx}

My equation is correct, Firstly, my θ \theta is not the θ \theta that Steven used. It is the angle with the downward vertical. Thus, while θ \theta is positive, θ ˙ \dot\theta and θ ¨ \ddot\theta are negative. The tangential component of gravity acts in the direction of negative θ \theta , and the friction force acts in the opposite direction.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago

@Mark Hennings the theta' term disappeared because the derivative is wrt theta right? clever!

Dhruv G - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Dhruv G If you prefer, multiply the whole equation by θ ˙ \dot\theta and then integrate with respect to t t .

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 1 month ago
Steven Chase
Apr 18, 2017

See @Mark Hennings for a purely analytical approach. I will provide a hybrid analytical-computational solution which eases the mathematical burden, with a computer taking up the slack.

Split the gravitational force into two parts. The tangential component is:

F g t = m g c o s θ \large{F_{gt} = mg \, cos\theta}

The normal component is (referenced toward the origin):

F g n = m g s i n θ \large{F_{gn} = -mg \, sin\theta}

Write an expression for the centripetal force in relation to the normal reaction force and the normal component of the gravity force. Let the variable v v refer to the bead's speed.

F c = m v 2 R = m g s i n θ + F n r F n r = m g s i n θ + m v 2 R \large{F_{c} = \frac{mv^2}{R} = -mg \, sin\theta + F_{nr} \implies F_{nr} = mg \, sin\theta + \frac{mv^2}{R} }

The net tangential force with friction is therefore:

F t = m g c o s θ μ [ m g s i n θ + m v 2 R ] = m d v d t d v d t = v ˙ = g c o s θ μ [ g s i n θ + v 2 R ] \large{F_{t} = mg \, cos\theta - \mu \Big[mg \, sin\theta + \frac{mv^2}{R}\Big] = m \frac{dv}{dt} \\ \frac{dv}{dt} = \dot{v} = g \, cos\theta - \mu \Big[g \, sin\theta + \frac{v^2}{R}\Big] }

Then we can solve iteratively in the following way (I used a time step Δ t = 1 0 6 s e c \Delta t = 10^{-6} sec ):

v k = v k 1 + v ˙ k 1 Δ t θ k = θ k 1 + θ ˙ k 1 Δ t v ˙ k = g c o s θ k μ [ g s i n θ k + v k 2 R ] θ ˙ k = v k R \large{v_k = v_{k-1} + \dot{v}_{k-1} \Delta t \\ \theta_k = \theta_{k-1} + \dot{\theta}_{k-1} \Delta t \\ \dot{v}_k = g \, cos\theta_k - \mu \Big[g \, sin\theta_k + \frac{v_k^2}{R}\Big] \\ \dot{\theta}_k = \frac{v_k}{R}}

Run the algorithm until θ = π 2 \large{\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}} . The resulting final velocity comes out to be approximately 1.37 m / s \boxed{1.37 m/s} .

The potential energy at rest at elevation R is dissipated as friction heat energy and is used to speed up the particle's speed (kinetic energy,) and the net difference is the work exhibited by the tangential force displaced R units. The centripetal force is only for changing direction and generates no work as it is normal on displacement.

Potential energy - Friction heat - Kinetic energy = Work of tangential force

cos(a)×PE - u sin(a)×PE - (2u/R)×KE = Ft×R

PE = potential E = m g R KE = Kinetic E = 0.5 m v^2 Fc = centripetal force R = radius of circle a = angle between radius & horizontal axis u = coefficient of friction m = mass Ac = centripetal acceleration = v^2/R v' = dv/dt = At = tangential acceleration Ft = tangential force = m At = m v'

Substitution:

cos(a) m g R - u sin(a) m g R - 2 u 0.5 m v^2 / R = m v' R

(Devide by R)

mg cos(a) - u mg sin(a) - u m Ac = m v'

mg cos(a) - u [mg sin(a) + m Ac] = m v'

Radial forces Fn = normal force = mg sin(a) + m Ac

Ff = frictional force = u Fn Fg = gravitational force = mg

Tangential forces Fg cos(a) - Ff = m At

Harout G. Vartanian - 4 years, 1 month ago

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