n + ( n − 1 ) + ⋯ + 2 + 1 + 2 + ⋯ + ( n − 1 ) + n
If the value of the expression above is 461, find the value of n − 1 .
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But n can be − 2 2 also. You should clarify that n is a positive integer.
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Just think about it. It comes from 1, then 2, and continues. So, n must be positive
n generally represents a natural number.
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Oh okay, I was unaware about it. Thanks.
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@Yash Jain – Its okay. :)
Maybe you'll see somewhere, that i represents an irrational number and not − 1 XD
n + ( n − 1 ) + … + 2 + 1 + 2 + … + ( n − 1 ) + n = 4 6 1 1 + 2 + … + ( n − 1 ) + n + 2 + … + ( n − 1 ) + n = 4 6 1 1 + 2 + … + ( n − 1 ) + n + 1 + 2 + … + ( n − 1 ) + n = 4 6 1 + 1 2 i = 1 ∑ n i = 4 6 2 2 2 ( n ) ( n + 1 ) = 4 6 2 n 2 + n − 4 6 2 = 0 ( n + 2 2 ) ( n − 2 1 ) = 0 n = 2 1 , − 2 2
From the expression, we know that the sequence is 1 + 2 + … + n , so we know that n > 0
Therefore, n = 2 1 and
n − 1 = 2 1 − 1 = 2 0
Great one! Thanks
Take the square root of 461, floor it, and subtract one.
EDIT: I have found out why it works.
Take a square. Let the sides be of length x.
A r e a = x 2
We can find the area also as a summation:
1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + . . . + x = ( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) 2
which we can split into:
1 + ( 1 + 2 ) + ( 2 + 3 ) + ( 3 + 4 ) + . . . + ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + ( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) = ( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) 2
Manipulating the equation,
( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) + ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + … + 2 + 1 + 2 + … + ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 = ( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) 2
( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) + ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + … + 2 + 1 + 2 + … + ⌊ 2 x ⌋ = ( ⌊ 2 x ⌋ + 1 ) 2 − 1
Letting ⌊ 2 x ⌋ = m , m + 1 = n :
( m + 1 ) + m + … + 2 + 1 + 2 + … + m + ( m + 1 ) = ( m + 1 ) 2 + ( m + 1 ) − 1
4 6 1 = ( m + 1 ) 2 + m
Now we see that if we square root this equation, we get an ugly mess of irrationality behind (m + 1) due to there being an extra '+ m' behind the equation. There we floor the answer to get rid of it.
Now we got m + 1 = 2 1 , or n = 2 1 .
Therefore n − 1 = 2 0 .
Cool! But I think you should know why
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i have edited the thing that i did not know by learning! also indeed it is cool
T h e e q u a t i o n c a n b e w r i t t e n a s , 1 + 2 × ( 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + . . . . . + n ) = 4 6 1 2 × ( 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + . . . . + n ) = 4 6 0 2 × ( 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + . . . . + n − 1 ) = 4 6 0 2 × ( 2 n ( n + 1 ) − 1 ) = 4 6 0 2 × ( 2 n ( n + 1 ) − 2 ) = 4 6 0 n ( n + 1 ) − 2 = 4 6 0 n ( n + 1 ) = 4 6 2 n ( n + 1 ) = 2 1 × 2 2 O n c o m p a r i n g , n = 2 1 n − 1 = 2 1 − 1 = 2 0
Your way is almost the same as me. But thank you for giving this solution!
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n + ( n − 1 ) + . . . + 2 + 1 + 2 + . . . + ( n − 1 ) + n = 4 6 1
n + ( n − 1 ) + . . . + 2 + 2 + . . . + ( n − 1 ) + n = 4 6 0
2 ( n + ( n − 1 ) + . . . + 2 ) = 4 6 0
n + ( n − 1 ) + . . . + 2 = 2 3 0
2 n ( n + 1 ) − 1 = 2 3 0
2 n ( n + 1 ) = 2 3 1
n 2 + n = 4 6 2
n 2 + n − 4 6 2 = 0
( n + 2 2 ) ( n − 2 1 ) = 0
n = 2 1
So, n − 1 = 2 0