A geometry problem by A Former Brilliant Member

Geometry Level 1

This annulus has been formed from two concentric circles. A chord of length t t of the larger circle is then drawn tangent to the inner circle.

If you only know the value of t , t, can you calculate the area of the annulus?

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Now, Apply Phythagoras Theorem,

t 2 4 + r 2 = R 2 \dfrac {t^{2}}{4} + r^{2} = R^{2}

Hence we get, t 2 4 = R 2 r 2 \dfrac { t^{2}}{4} = R^{2} - r^{2}

Here, we can vary the radii R R and r r and there are infinity possibilities of such variations satisfying the above equation.

Now, Area of the Red Region ( A ) (A) = Area of Annular Ring = (Area of Outer Circle) - (Area of Inner Circle)

A A = π R 2 π r 2 = πR^{2} - πr^{2} = π [ R 2 r 2 ] = π[R^{2} - r^{2} ] = π t 2 4 = π\dfrac {t^{2}}{4}

Hence, Area of Annular Ring is independent of radii of the two circles and depends only on the length of tangent.

Pythagoras, not Pythagorus

Abijah Reed - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Thanks, I corrected that

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Now you did phythagoras ;-)

Mr. India - 2 years, 6 months ago

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@Mr. India Yeah! (σ≧▽≦)σ

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

Pythagoras or Pythagorus? Pythagoras was a Greek, so he would have spelled his name using the Greek alphabet. The common present-day spelling in the Latin alphabet, Pythagoras, is a phonetic version of the original. From this perspective, is Pythagorus any less correct?

John Barnhart - 2 years, 5 months ago

But how do you prove that perpendicular drawn from center bisects t?

Gaurav Bahl - 2 years, 6 months ago

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In the original question it is stated that the chord line is tangent to the inner circle. A tangent is always perpendicular to the radius of that circle at the point of contact.

Andrew Bartltrop - 2 years, 6 months ago

U can see that both the smaller right triangles are similar to each other. Both have same hypotenuse R , R, a common side r r and same angle of 9 0 . 90^\circ .

Hence, by SSA Congruence you can say the both have equal portion of the tangent t . t.

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

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And you might add that SSA congruence is only valid in right triangles, sometimes being referred to as HL or Hypotenuse Leg congruence.

Edward Rogers - 2 years, 6 months ago

If a radius is perpendicular to a chord then it bisects that chord.

Edward Rogers - 2 years, 6 months ago

So, as r approaches 0, t becomes the diameter of the outer circle and t/2 becomes R, it’s radius. Therefore A = pi*t^2/4? Hm.

Phillip Wagoner - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Yeah... Its quite interesting. You can try this on Desmos .

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

Since the diameter of the circles is not given, assume they do not matter and assume the diameter of the inner circle is zero. Thus t is the diameter of the outer circle.

Dave Schneider - 2 years, 6 months ago

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That actually wont be that satisfactory to directly ignore the radii of two circles. Since, I used the radii of thise circles to prove the question. If I had ignored them, I wouldn't be able to prove. It does work, but not always.

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

Think about the inner circle getting smaller and smaller, eventually the chord will become diameter.

R = t 2 \Rightarrow R = \frac{t}{2}

A = π × t 2 4 \Rightarrow A = \pi\times \frac{t^{2}}{4}

William Allen - 2 years, 5 months ago
Paul Laws
Nov 19, 2018

If you sweep the chord around the circle, each half of it will cover the area. The area is therefore half t integrated over 2 pi.

Where in that do you use the fact that t is tangent to the inner circle?

Carlo Wood - 2 years, 6 months ago

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The tangent gives you a line that can be swept around the circle. The area of a shape is the length of a line covering one of the range integrated over the other range. If you look at the tangent it gives you two such lines from the inner circle to the outer one. Integrating either over 2 pi radians will get you the area.

Paul Laws - 2 years, 6 months ago

Sorry - I don't understand this - what do you get when you integrate t/2 over 2pi ?

Katherine barker - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Same here... I advise you to use LateX

Syed Hamza Khalid - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Sorry, on a phone :(

Paul Laws - 2 years, 6 months ago

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@Paul Laws Its okay but can you explain "half t integrated over 2 pi."

Syed Hamza Khalid - 2 years, 6 months ago

t/2 is a line from the inner circle to the outer one. Integrating this around the circle (0 to 2 pi radians) gives you the area of the shape.

Paul Laws - 2 years, 6 months ago

That seems counter-intuitive to me. Interesting. Good work.

Georgy Duloc - 2 years, 6 months ago

This particular method was suggested by a MIT student. Check this link .

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago
Zain Majumder
Nov 18, 2018

From the diagram, we deduce that t = 2 R 2 r 2 R 2 r 2 = t 2 4 t = 2\sqrt{R^2-r^2} \implies R^2-r^2 = \frac{t^2}{4} . The area of the annulus is π R 2 π r 2 = π ( R 2 r 2 ) = π 4 t 2 \pi R^2 - \pi r^2 = \pi (R^2-r^2) = \boxed{\frac{\pi}{4}t^2} .

You have no data except t and that the triangle has a 90d corner. This is not enough information to derive the other values.

John Gilmour - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Using Pythagorean Theorem on one triangle (let the leg that is not a radius have length x x ): x 2 + r 2 = R 2 x = R 2 r 2 x^2+r^2=R^2 \implies x=\sqrt{R^2-r^2} . The same can be used on the other triangle (let the leg that is not a radius have length y ) y) : y 2 + r 2 = R 2 y = R 2 r 2 y^2+r^2=R^2 \implies y=\sqrt{R^2-r^2} . Since t = x + y t = x+y , this gives us t = 2 R 2 r 2 t = 2\sqrt{R^2-r^2} , which is enough to find the area since the formula for the area of an annulus is only dependent on the differences of the squares of the radii.

Hopefully, that clarifies things.

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 6 months ago
Rocco Dalto
Nov 23, 2018

t 2 4 = R 2 r 2 A a n n u l u s = π ( R 2 r 2 ) = π t 2 4 \dfrac{t^2}{4} = R^2 - r^2 \implies A_{annulus} = \pi(R^2 - r^2) = \pi\dfrac{t^2}{4} .

Vinod Kumar
Nov 19, 2018

This is a very popular problem and area is equal to a circle of diameter=t.

Similar problems exist in 3D shells also.

I don't understand. What is a "circle of diameter"?

Pi Han Goh - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Intuitively I arrived at Vinod's solution. As we reduce the diameter of the inner circle toward zero, then t defines the diameter of the outer circle.

Koda Vonnor - 2 years, 6 months ago

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What about the case when t 0 + t\to0^+ is not true?

Pi Han Goh - 2 years, 6 months ago
San Seng
Nov 25, 2018

If R & r is the radius of bigger & smaller circles respectively, t=2√(R^2-r^2) The area of the annulus is π(R^2-r^2)=πt/2. So knowing t, the area will be known

Gabriel Chacón
Nov 22, 2018

Here is a Geogebra applet to play around.

Thomas Chan
Nov 21, 2018

Pi * t^2 / 4

Gabriel Pickard
Nov 21, 2018

If you can set a circle of radius 1 inside a circle of radius 2 and create a square tangent to radius 1 and radius 2. Then the squares sides will be the size of radius 2.

Edwin Gray
Nov 21, 2018

r = radius of small circle, R = radius of large circle. By pythagoras Theorem, R^2 - r^2 = (l/2)^2. Then pi*(R^2- r^2)= annulus area = pi(l/2)^2. Ed Gray

S E
Nov 20, 2018

The length of the tangent specifies a unique pair of circles that satisfy the given conditions. If the circles are not identical, then their areas and the area the annulus they form can be calculated.

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