Geometric Progressions

Algebra Level 3

In a G.P. of real numbers, the sum of the first 2 terms is 7.The sum of the first 6 terms is 91. Then the sum of the first 4 terms is:


The answer is 28.

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We are given a G.P. { a n } \{a_{n}\} , a n = a r n 1 a_{n} = ar^{n-1} , such that

a ( 1 + r ) = 7 a(1 + r) = 7 and a ( 1 + r + r 2 + r 3 + r 4 + r 5 ) = 91 a(1 + r + r^{2} + r^{3} + r^{4} + r^{5}) = 91

a ( 1 + r ) + a r 2 ( 1 + r + r 2 + r 3 ) = 91 a ( 1 + r + r 2 + r 3 ) = 84 r 2 . \Longrightarrow a(1 + r) + ar^{2}(1 + r + r^{2} + r^{3}) = 91 \Longrightarrow a(1 + r + r^{2} + r^{3}) = \dfrac{84}{r^{2}}.

This last equation implies that the sum of the first four terms equals 84 r 2 . \dfrac{84}{r^{2}}.

Now as clearly r 1 , r \ne 1, the second of our initial equations can be rewritten as

a ( r 6 1 ) r 1 = 91 , a*\dfrac{(r^{6} - 1)}{r - 1} = 91,

which when divided by the first of our initial equations yields

r 6 1 ( r 1 ) ( r + 1 ) = 91 7 = 13 \dfrac{r^{6} - 1}{(r - 1)(r + 1)} = \dfrac{91}{7} = 13

( r 2 1 ) ( r 4 + r 2 + 1 ) r 2 1 = 13 \Longrightarrow \dfrac{(r^{2} - 1)(r^{4} + r^{2} + 1)}{r^{2} - 1} = 13

r 4 + r 2 12 = 0 ( r 2 + 4 ) ( r 2 3 ) = 0. \Longrightarrow r^{4} + r^{2} - 12 = 0 \Longrightarrow (r^{2} + 4)(r^{2} - 3) = 0.

As r r is real we must have that r 2 = 3 , r^{2} = 3, and so 84 r 2 = 28 . \dfrac{84}{r^{2}} = \boxed{28}.

Hi @Brian Charlesworth I was looking for a problem of finding area of infinite recursive circles in a triangle, for which you had posted a solution. While going through the solutions came across this.

The sum of first two terms is 7, the sum of next two terms is 7 × r 2 7 \times r^2 , the sum of next two terms is 7 × r 4 7 \times r^4

So, 7 + 7 × r 2 + 7 × r 4 = 91 7 + 7 \times r^2 + 7 \times r^4 = 91 giving 1 + r 2 + r 4 = 13 1 + r^2 + r^4 = 13 solving gives r 2 = 3 r^2 = 3

Thus the sum of first four terms = 7 + 7 × 3 = 2 8 = 7 + 7 \times 3 = \textbf 28

Ujjwal Rane - 4 years, 9 months ago

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That's an elegant method! :)

Brian Charlesworth - 4 years, 9 months ago

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Thanks Brian! The name came closer to the description of the problem i was searching. It had a circle inscribed in an equilateral triangle, and in the three corners the figure was repeated recursively. The sum of area of all the circles was asked. It was the problem of the day today. I solved it and was trying to post a solution, when it moved to the next problem and I just could not get it back. :-( You had solved it, so was hoping to find it in your solutions.

Ujjwal Rane - 4 years, 9 months ago

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@Ujjwal Rane I remember the problem but can't remember the title. I looked back through my solutions up to a year ago for a title similar to that of this problem and couldn't find anything. I also looked through the problems of the day and the problem you're looking for isn't there anymore either. :(

Brian Charlesworth - 4 years, 9 months ago

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@Brian Charlesworth Thank you for looking for it Brian! Appreciate your help. It boiled down to a beautiful geometric result. Anyway, hope some lucky happenstance brings me to it again :-)

Ujjwal Rane - 4 years, 9 months ago
Prayag Jain
Sep 3, 2015

Divide Equ 1 by 2 and apply cubic identities, you will get a Quadratic Equ with

Solve it you get

What else do we need now!!

Ben Habeahan
Sep 8, 2015

Let say G.P; first terms a , a, ratio r r and the sum of the first n n terms is S n , S_n,

S n = a ( r n 1 ) r 1 S_n= \frac{a(r^n-1)}{r-1}

So we have,

S 2 = a ( r 2 1 ) r 1 = 7 . . . ( 1 ) S_2=\color{#3D99F6}{ \frac{a(r^2-1)}{r-1}=7} ...(1) S 6 = a ( r 6 1 ) r 1 = 91... ( 2 ) S_6= \frac{a(r^6-1)}{r-1}=91 ...(2)

( 2 ) : ( 1 ) , (2):(1),

a ( r 6 1 ) r 1 a ( r 2 1 ) r 1 = 91 7 \dfrac{\frac{a(r^6-1)}{r-1}}{\frac{a(r^2-1)}{r-1}}=\dfrac{91}{7}

Because A 3 B 3 = ( A B ) ( A 2 + A B + B 2 ) , A^3-B^3=(A-B)(A^2+AB+B^2),

( r 2 1 ) ( r 4 + r 2 + 1 ) r 2 1 = r 4 + r 2 + 1 = 13 \frac{(r^2-1)(r^4+r^2+1)}{r^2-1}=r^4+r^2+1=13

r 4 + r 2 12 = 0 r 2 = 3 \implies r^4+r^2-12=0\implies r^2=3

S 4 = a ( r 4 1 ) r 1 = a ( r 2 1 ) ( r 1 ) ( r 2 + 1 ) = 7 ( 3 + 1 ) = 28 S_4= \frac{a(r^4-1)}{r-1}= \color{#3D99F6}{\frac{a(r^2-1)}{(r-1)}}(r^2+1)=\color{#3D99F6}{7}(3+1) =\boxed{28}

Ayush Pattnayak
Oct 15, 2015

Genesis,where did you get this one from???

Mr Yovan
Sep 5, 2015

Lets call the reason between the elements of n. X+xn+xn^2+xn^3+xn^4+xn^5=91 X+xn=7=x.(n+1) Xn^2+xn^3=n^2. (X+xn)=n^2. 7 Xn^4+xn^5=n^4. (X+xn)=n^4 . 7 X+xn+xn^2+xn^3+xn^4+xn^5=x+xn .(1+n^2+n^4)=91=7 . (1+n^2+n^4) Therefore(1+n^2+n^4)=13, n^2+n^4=12 n^2=3 X+xn+xn^2+xn^3=n^2 . (x+xn)+(x+xn)=3. 7 +7=28

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