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Geometry Level 4

A B C ABC is a right triangle with B = 9 0 \angle B= 90^\circ .
E E and F F are the mid-points of A B AB and A C AC , respectively.
The incenter I I of triangle A B C ABC lies on the circumcircle of triangle A E F AEF ,

Find the ratio B C A B \dfrac{BC}{AB} .

If this ratio can be expressed as p q \dfrac pq , where p p and q q are coprime positive integers, submit your answer as p + q p+q .


The answer is 7.

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(1) As A I AI is a bisector then, we can say that F A I = I A E = α \angle FAI=\angle IAE=\alpha .

(2) Now, A E I F AEIF is a ciclic quadrilateral \implies I E F = I F E = α \angle IEF=IFE=\alpha and Δ I F E \Delta IFE is isosceles.

(3) F F and E E are midpoints then F E B C FE \parallel BC and A E F = 9 0 \angle AEF=90^\circ implies A F E = 9 0 2 α \angle AFE=90^\circ-2\alpha implies A I F = 9 0 α I F C = 9 0 + α \angle AIF=90^\circ-\alpha \implies \angle IFC = 90^\circ+\alpha .

(4) As H H is a intersection of the bisector A I AI and Δ A B H \Delta ABH is a triangle rectangle then A H B = 9 0 α A H C = 9 0 + α \angle AHB=90^\circ-\alpha \implies \angle AHC=90^\circ+\alpha .

(5) As C I CI is a bisector of A C B = 90 2 α \angle ACB=90-2\alpha then A I C = I C B = 4 5 α \angle AIC=\angle ICB=45^\circ-\alpha and as A H C = 9 0 + α = I F C \angle AHC=90^\circ+\alpha=\angle IFC an share C I Δ F I C Δ I C H CI \implies \Delta FIC \succeq \Delta ICH then F I C = I H C = 4 5 \angle FIC= \angle IHC= 45^\circ .

(6) As Δ F I C Δ I C B \Delta FIC \succeq \Delta ICB then I F = I H = I E IF=IH=IE then H , F , E H,F,E are cyclic then F I H \angle FIH is central and F E H = 45 º H E B = B H E = 4 5 \angle FEH=45º \implies \angle HEB=BHE=45^\circ then Δ H E B \Delta HEB is isoceles and E B = B H EB=BH .

(7) E B = B H EB=BH . and for (5) C F = C H CF=CH then if E B = x EB=x and C H = y CH=y we have that

4 y 2 4 x 2 = x 2 + y 2 + 2 x y 5 x 2 + 2 x y 3 y 2 = 0 = ( 5 x 3 y ) ( x + y ) 4y^{2}-4x^{2}=x^{2}+y^{2}+2xy \implies 5x^{2}+2xy-3y^{2} = 0 = (5x-3y)(x+y) but x + y x+y are not 0 then 5 x 3 y = 0 5 x = 3 y 5x-3y=0 \implies 5x=3y .

Now, B C A B = x + y 2 x = 1 2 + y 2 x = 1 2 + 5 6 = 16 12 = 4 3 \frac{BC}{AB}=\frac{x+y}{2x}=\frac{1}{2}+\frac{y}{2x}=\frac{1}{2}+\frac{5}{6}=\frac{16}{12}=\frac{4}{3} then p + q = 4 + 3 = 7 p+q=4+3=7

I think you mean A E F = 9 0 \angle AEF=90^\circ in line (3) :) In fact, a couple statements are inconsistent with your diagram- A I F = 9 0 \angle AIF=90^\circ ...

Dan Ley - 4 years, 5 months ago

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I had not seen this mistake. Thanks

Alejandro Castillo - 4 years, 4 months ago

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No worries, I really like this solution

Dan Ley - 4 years, 4 months ago

Very nicely presented!

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago
Ayush G Rai
Nov 1, 2016

Let B C = a , A C = b BC=a, AC=b and A B = c . AB=c. Construction : Draw I D ID perpendicular to A C . AC.
Then I D = r , ID=r, the inradius of A B C . \triangle ABC. Observe E F EF is parallel to B C BC [Mid-point theorem] and hence A E F = A B C = 9 0 . \angle AEF = \angle ABC = 90^\circ. Hence A I F = 9 0 . \angle AIF = 90^\circ.
Therefore I D 2 = F D × D A . {ID}^2 = F D\times DA. If a > c , a > c, then F A > D A F A > DA and we have D A = s a , DA = s - a, and F D = F A D A = b 2 ( s a ) . FD = FA - DA =\dfrac{b}{2}-(s-a).
Thus we obtain r 2 = ( b + c a ) ( a c ) 4 r^2=\dfrac{(b+c-a)(a-c)}{4} but r = c + a b 2 . r=\dfrac{c+a-b}{2}. From these two equations we get ( c + a b ) 2 = ( b + c a ) ( a c ) . {(c + a - b)}^2 = (b + c - a)(a - c). Simplification gives 3 b = 3 a + c . 3b=3a+c. Squaring both sides and using b 2 = c 2 + a 2 , b^2 = c^2 + a^2, we obtain 4 c = 3 a . 4c = 3a. Hence B C B A = a c = 4 3 . \dfrac{BC}{BA} = \dfrac{a}{c} = \dfrac{4}{3}.
Therefore, the sum of numerator and denominator = 4 + 3 = 7 . =4+3=\boxed{7}.
Note: If a c , a ≤ c, then I lies outside the circumcircle of A E F . \triangle AEF.



your method is great and simple

i solved this by pure trigonometry

r= 2R*sin^2(A/2)

this what i got at the end

and then

2a = b+c

and then a/c =4/3

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Ur respect 2ward the subject & it seems u realise the vastness & range of any subject which we can only be amazed at.

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@Kaushik Chandra I agree with you terry , he is worthy of praise

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member thanks a lot !

Ayush G Rai - 4 years, 7 months ago

@A Former Brilliant Member Thanx a lot Neel for supporting my view.

Kaushik Chandra - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Kaushik Chandra Hey Neel why don't u write a solution of ur own for this question. We will enjoy the application trigonometry in this marvellous question. NOTE : It's just an advice u may follow it or not.

Kaushik Chandra - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Kaushik Chandra of course , why not

i will do that

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@Kaushik Chandra you are welcome

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@Kaushik Chandra thanks a lot!

Ayush G Rai - 4 years, 7 months ago

Nice solution . It so happens that the line joining the centre of the larger circle and the incentre of the smaller circle is parallel to the line BC. But is there a way of proving that this must be so because from such a proof the solution to the problem follows pretty quickly

Des O Carroll - 4 years, 7 months ago

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I think u meant || to AB. I think so. They maybe or since it is a right triangle this thing satisfies.

Ayush G Rai - 4 years, 7 months ago

This question appeared in gmo last year and this is the exact same official solution which they gave.

Aditya Kumar - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Well I had written GMO and this was the same solution i wrote.

Ayush G Rai - 4 years, 6 months ago
Vishwash Kumar
Nov 6, 2016

Note:If a x , a ≤ x, then I lies outside the circumcircle of A E F . \triangle AEF.

Are you himanshu

vishwash kumar - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Now what problem why doesn't it appears as it need to be

Vishwash Kumar ΓΞΩ - 4 years, 6 months ago

If you want a i 1 a_{i-1} , you should type:

1
 a_{i-1} 

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 6 months ago

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If you want a_{i-1}

Vishwash Kumar ΓΞΩ - 4 years, 6 months ago

If you want a i 1 a_{i-1}

Vishwash Kumar ΓΞΩ - 4 years, 6 months ago

If you 2^3

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KUDOS! Neel for ur beautiful solution. It was cool & of course Mathematics needs a lot of attention (as ur profile also says).

Kaushik Chandra - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Hi terry thank you for your kind words

Why don't u join slack

We can talk there

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U did this for an unknown guy like me .It's praiseworthy Neel,really very praiseworthy.

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