Gold and Silver Coins

You randomly choose a treasure chest to open, and then randomly choose a coin from that treasure chest. If the coin you choose is gold, then what is the probability that you chose chest A?

1 2 \frac{1}{2} 2 3 \frac{2}{3} 3 4 \frac{3}{4} 1 1

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15 solutions

Eli Ross Staff
Sep 16, 2015

Intuitive Explanation: There are two ways to get a gold coin: from chest A (from which we have 100% chance), or from chest B (from which we have 50% chance). Since we are twice as likely to get a gold coin if we are choosing from chest A, the odds that we chose from chest A are 2 : 1 , 2:1, so the probability is 2 3 . \frac{2}{3}.


Formal Explanation: We can apply Bayes' Theorem to this problem. Let G G be the event of selecting a gold coin, and note that P ( G A ) = 1 P(G|A) = 1 and P ( G B ) = 1 2 . P(G|B) = \frac{1}{2}. Via Bayes' Theorem, P ( A G ) = P ( A ) P ( G A ) P ( G ) = P ( A ) P ( G A ) P ( A ) P ( G A ) + P ( B ) P ( G B ) = 1 2 1 1 2 1 + 1 2 1 2 = 2 3 . P(A|G) = \frac{P(A)\cdot P(G|A)}{P(G)} = \frac{P(A)\cdot P(G|A)}{P(A)\cdot P(G|A) + P(B)\cdot P(G|B)} = \frac{\frac{1}{2} \cdot 1}{\frac{1}{2} \cdot 1 + \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1}{2}} = \frac{2}{3}.

I don't agree. If You label one chest A and the other B, then hide those labels and let someone choose one chest. the probability it would be A is halve.

Zhi Wei - 5 years, 4 months ago

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The question is not "what is the probability of choosing chest A?" but "what is the probability that the gold coin you have came from chest A?"

Alan Briggs - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Read the qn. It says the probability of choosing chest A.

Zhi Wei - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Zhi Wei "If the coin you choose is gold, then what is the probability that you chose chest A?"

or

Given that you chose a gold coin, what is the probability that you chose chest A?

or

Probability of chest A, given that you chose a Gold coin?

therefore

P(A|G) = the most accurate representation of the question asked.

Brian Egedy - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Brian Egedy Interesting, I also read "chose" as "choose", which produced the same confusion. As usual, words are harder than mathematical expressions. The sequence of actions is expressed easier in a math expression. Obviously.

Nassim Sabba - 1 year ago

the question is "what is the probability that you chose chest A" and not "what is the probability that the gold coin you have came from chest A". The question is misleading

Karthik Thakkar - 5 years, 3 months ago

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I do agree with da answer given. The question isnt misleading.

Emma Ruth - 5 years ago

If you had taken a silver coin instead of a golden one, would you still think that the probability of having chosen chest A is 50%? Baye's theorem is sometimes counterintuitive (as can be probability itself), and that could also be called misleading...

Gonzalo Guerrero - 1 year, 2 months ago

I understood the concept and got the answer correctly but it says incorrect. 🤣

Rowena Onyekachi - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Me too! Lolz

Jireh Chan - 2 years, 4 months ago

Why do I get "incorrect" when I selected 2/3?

Jireh Chan - 2 years, 4 months ago

Damn this is confusing

Tahmeed Rahman - 2 years, 3 months ago

the question is about the chest not the coin " If the coin you choose is gold, then what is the probability that you chose chest A"? The question did not put emphasis on the probability of the coin.

Greg Anderson - 2 years, 1 month ago

The question did not ask "what is the probability that the coin would be gold"?

Greg Anderson - 2 years, 1 month ago

I chose 2/3. The response was "Incorrect". If the intention was to lead me here to explore the various explanations and comments, then it's ok.

Rajendra Pai - 2 years ago

I kind of guessed 2/3 knowing 1 is a 100% chance and the other is 50% but when i put this into my calculator I get 1.25 (0.5 1)/(0.5 1)+(0.5*0.5) Am I just making a rookie error in input?

Chris Spencer - 1 year, 6 months ago

@Chris Spencer you've got the parenthesis wrong in your calculation, it should be (0.5)/(0.5 + 0.5*0.5)

asdf qwer - 11 months, 1 week ago

Aristo style, pure logic solution, no formula necessary: Let's breakdown all possible outcomes: Either we choose chest A or B, and then we choose gold or silver..; so; 1- A -> gold (100 events) 2-B -> gold (50 events) 3-B -> silver(50 events)

So because we ARE TOLD, we DO KNOW, that we have a gold coin in hand , so - our event space narrows down to first two event groups: (1+2) ...which means we have MAX.(100+50=150events) and in those 150 events, the qty of options which includes chest A as an event is only and completely row 1...which is 100 events

so possibility of choosing ( or coming across chest A amongst all possibilities ) is : 100events/(100+50)events = 2/3

gen Dir - 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Maro T
Nov 12, 2017

That explanation helped me understand completely. Thank you.

Tony Zerrer - 3 years, 2 months ago

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I guessed 2/3 and it says I'm incorrect. I don't get it

alan pennock - 2 years, 12 months ago

how did u get 200/300?

Aj Peña - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Bcoz 200/150 is multiplied by 1/2

Bhaskar Saikia - 2 years, 1 month ago

now it is clear, thanks you .

Tedi Kakatsi - 2 years, 3 months ago
Sadasiva Panicker
Sep 17, 2015

When we choose randomly a gold coin, from two boxes of 100 gold, 50 gold and 50 silver, total out come is 3 and favourable out come is two. Therefore Probabilit of getting gold coin is 2/3.

There are 150 gold coins in both chests combined. Chest A has twice as many as Chest B. Knowing that you chose a gold coin, look at your entire universe of possibilities as 150 coins. 100 of those lie in Chest A (100/150), making the probability that you chose from Chest A: 2/3.

Woody Superman
Sep 16, 2015

The probability of getting a gold coin in chess A is 1/2. The probability of getting a gold coin in chess B is 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4. If the coin you choose is gold, the probability that you chose chest A = 1/2 / (1/2 + 1/4) = 2/3

We need to find P(A|G)-ie the probability of picking up from A given evidence is -it is a Gold coin. P(G|A): prob of gold if chest is A=1. P(A): P(A)=P(B)=0.5. P(G)=150/200 =3/4. From Bayes P(A/G)=P(G/A) * P(A)/P(G)= 1 * 0.5 * 4/3= 2/3

This simple explanation made the magic for me. ^..^

Rockson Kwame Agyeman - 2 years, 3 months ago
Yash Vyas
Jun 5, 2018

P(H) = 0.5 P(E) = 3/4

P(E/H) = 1

applying baye's formula 2/3

Cristian Popa
Mar 4, 2020

Probability to extract gold in total is P(gold)=150/200 = 3/4; Probability to open chest A is P(A) = 1/2 that's the prior ; probability to extract gold form chest A is P(gold|A) = 1; Plugging in together in the formula: P(A|gold)=(P(gold|A)/P(gold)) P(A) = (1/(1/2)) 3/4=2/3

Fadden Holden
Apr 19, 2019

There are 150 gold coins. 100 are in Chest 1. 50 are in Chest 2. The probability the gold coin comes from chest 1 is 100/150 or 2/3.

Both are same

Bhaskar Saikia - 2 years, 1 month ago

This method seems simpler.

Anil Fernando - 2 years ago
Satyendra Kasturi
Dec 19, 2018

Yayyy, i got right :D lol well I'm just trying to put my understanding in consideration from the Bayes Theorem {may not be accurate explanation}

Probability of choosing the Treasure A out of Two Treasures is 1/2 aka Prior Probability

Probability of Choosing the Gold Coin out of total available coins is 150 / 200 = 3/4

Probability of Choosing the Gold Coin exclusively from the Treasure A is 100/100 = 1 {It is so obvious that there are cent percent chances}

Probability for choosing the Treasure A given the evidence that the coin is Gold = Prior Probability Times likelihood ratio = (1 / 2) * ( 1 / (3/4)) = (1/2) * (4/3) = 2/3

Ajay Pandey
Feb 19, 2018

X -- Chance to Select chest A Y -- Chance to select Gold coin Need to find p(X|Y) ? p(X|Y) = (p(X) p(Y|X))/p(Y) p(X) = 1/2 , p(Y) = 150/200 = 3/4 , p(Y|X)=1 p(X|Y) =(1/2 1)/3/4 = 2/3

Eduardo Escamilla
Feb 13, 2018
  • Using a more intuitive approach, in chest A there are 100 gold coins and in chest B there are 50 gold coins so the ratio of gold coins A : B = 2 : 1, hence the probability a person chooses A from a (virtual) chest that contains both A and B is 2 / (2 + 1) = 2/3
Nikhil Sinnarkar
Dec 20, 2017

Known : - P(A) - probability of selecting chest A = 1/2, - P(G) - probability of selecting gold coin = 150/200 = 3/4, - P(G|A) - probability that the coin is gold given you selected from chest A = 1 (as all the coins are gold in chest A),

To find : P(A|G) - probability that the coin is from chest A given the coin is a gold coin, P(A|G) = P ( G A ) . P ( A ) P ( G ) \frac{P(G|A) . P(A)}{P(G)} = 2 3 \frac{2}{3}

George Petrov
Apr 4, 2017

P(A|G) = P(G|A) * P(A) / P(G) = 1 * (1/2) / (3/4) = 2/3

reduce the sample since we know that the coin is gold and then the expression becomes 100/150 which is 2/3

sangeetha manivannan - 2 years, 5 months ago

p(a/gold)=p(a) p(gold/a) / p(gold) =2/3

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