Graphical Mechanics(Part 4)

Two rings each of mass m m are connected with a spring of stiffness k k and natural length l l as shown. Rings are constrained to move along wedge \text{wedge} shaped y = 1 x \displaystyle y = \frac{1}{|x|} . The system is released from rest \text{rest} . Find its Time Period T T in seconds \text{seconds} .

Enter answer as 20 T 20T .


Details and Assumptions

  • All surfaces are smooth \color{#3D99F6}{\text{smooth}}

  • Take acceleration due to gravity g = 10 m / s 2 \color{#3D99F6}{g = 10m/s^2}

  • Spring is ideal \color{#3D99F6}{\text{ideal}} and has natural length l = 2 m \color{#3D99F6}{l = 2m}

  • Stiffness of spring k = 2 m g N/m \color{#3D99F6}{k = 2mg \text{ N/m}}

  • Initially, rings are at ( 0.5 , 2 ) \color{#3D99F6}{(-0.5, 2)} and ( 0.5 , 2 ) \color{#3D99F6}{(0.5, 2)} respectively.


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The answer is 27.387.

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3 solutions

Steven Chase
Aug 31, 2020

This problem is fairly convenient to do with Lagrangian mechanics. Let x x be the horizontal coordinate of the particle on the right.

x = x y = x 1 x ˙ = x ˙ y ˙ = x 2 x ˙ x = x \\ y = x^{-1} \\ \dot{x} = \dot{x} \\ \dot{y} = -x^{-2} \dot{x}

Kinetic energy:

T = 2 1 2 m v 2 = 2 1 2 m ( x ˙ 2 + y ˙ 2 ) = m ( 1 + x 4 ) x ˙ 2 T = 2 \frac{1}{2} m v^2 = 2 \frac{1}{2} m (\dot{x}^2 + \dot{y}^2) = m(1 + x^{-4}) \dot{x}^2

Potential energy:

V = 2 m g x 1 + 1 2 k ( 2 x ) 2 V = 2 m g x^{-1} + \frac{1}{2} k (2x - \ell)^2

Lagrangian:

L = T V = m ( 1 + x 4 ) x ˙ 2 2 m g x 1 1 2 k ( 2 x ) 2 L = T - V = m(1 + x^{-4}) \dot{x}^2 - 2 m g x^{-1} - \frac{1}{2} k (2x - \ell)^2

Equation of motion:

d d t L x ˙ = L x \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{x}}} = \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{x}}

Evaluating results in:

x ¨ = 4 m x ˙ 2 x 5 + 2 m g x 2 2 k ( 2 x ) 2 m ( 1 + x 4 ) \ddot{x} = \frac{4 m \dot{x}^2 x^{-5} + 2 m g x^{-2} - 2 k (2x - \ell)}{2m(1 + x^{-4}) }

Numerically integrate until x ˙ < 0 \dot{x} < 0 for the first time. This time corresponds to a half period. Simulation code is attached.

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import math

dt = 10.0**(-6.0)

m = 1.0
g = 10.0
L0 = 2.0*m
k = 2.0*m*g

###################################

t = 0.0

x = 0.5
xd = 0.0
xdd = 0.0

while xd >= 0.0:

    x = x + xd*dt
    xd = xd + xdd*dt

    right = 4.0*m*(xd**2.0)*(x**-5.0)
    right = right + 2.0*m*g*(x**-2.0)
    right = right - 2.0*k*(2.0*x - L0)

    left = 2.0*m*(1.0 + x**(-4.0))

    xdd = right/left


    t = t + dt

###################################

T = 2.0*t

print dt
print (20.0*T)

#>>> 
#1e-05
#27.3884
#>>> ================================ RESTART ================================
#>>> 
#1e-06
#27.38756
#>>> 

@Steven Chase Awesome solution and upvoted.

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

@Steven Chase can you provide a anayltical way to tackle this problem

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Excellent solution sir. Thanku for sharing it with us. :) (+1)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Hey bro nice problem; I'm the 3rd solver :)

Krishna Karthik - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thanku. It's good you're able to solve them at your age. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

@Steven Chase

I vaguely remember solving your "bead sliding on parabola" type problems two years ago. I looked at your Lagrangian Method solutions and I think that's what got me into Lagrangian Mechanics. I also remember posting a very incorrect problem called "Frictionless Kinematic Skatepark" do you remember that?

Perhaps this solution jogged my memory... anyway, nice use of the method :)

Krishna Karthik - 9 months, 1 week ago

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Indeed, I had a love affair with beads and parabolas several years ago, which resulted in a whole slew of problems. I do remember the name "Frictionless Kinematic Skatepark", but I don't remember the actual problem.

Steven Chase - 9 months, 1 week ago

Speaking of Lagrange, I posted a new mechanics problem

Steven Chase - 9 months, 1 week ago

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Ah yes, thanks. I'll take a look at it soon.

Krishna Karthik - 9 months, 1 week ago

@Aryan Sanghi why your problems are coming in top in mechanics section?

Talulah Riley - 9 months ago

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I changed their topics twice, so they are coming at top. Actually they were not having levels, so I did that. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months ago

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@Aryan Sanghi it is really a nice trick to bring any previous problem at the top.
by the way why you are crying for levels??

Talulah Riley - 9 months ago

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@Talulah Riley Actually it is just a kind of craze for me to see levels with my problems. I literally take hours and days making them, so I literally think they should get levels, isn't it?

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months ago

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@Aryan Sanghi @Aryan Sanghi See @Steven Chase sir, his almost 50% of problem has not got levels.
Still he post .
He literally post more problem and more hard problem than you.
Still he doesn't cry for levels ,isn't it?

Talulah Riley - 9 months ago

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@Talulah Riley I don't think there's anything wrong in adding levels to his problems.

Krishna Karthik - 9 months ago

@Aryan Sanghi I thought that Brilliant had some weird algorithm that would randomly promote problems to the top of the list. Mystery solved

Steven Chase - 9 months ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase yeahhh! It is just a nonsense work of Aryan , nothing else.

Talulah Riley - 9 months ago

@Steven Chase Yeah, I changed the topic of a problem once; that made it into a new problem. The problem's called "There's a trick, but it's easy".

It's not the algorithm; I was going to ask Aryan the same question myself.

Krishna Karthik - 9 months ago
Aryan Sanghi
Aug 31, 2020

Finding h h when it falls

Applying Conservation of Energy

1 2 k ( 1 ) 2 + 2 m g h = 1 2 k ( 2 2 h 2 ) 2 \frac12k(1)^2 + 2mgh = \frac12k\bigg(\frac{2}{2-h}-2\bigg)^2 1 2 2 m g + 2 m g h = 4 m g ( h 1 h 2 ) 2 \frac122mg + 2mgh = 4mg\bigg(\frac{h-1}{h-2}\bigg)^2 2 h + 1 = 4 ( h 1 h 2 ) 2 2h + 1 = 4\bigg(\frac{h-1}{h-2}\bigg)^2 h = 1.5 m \boxed{h = 1.5 m}


Finding d s ds

d s = 1 + ( d x d y ) 2 d y ds = \sqrt{1 + \bigg(\frac{dx}{dy}\bigg)^2}dy

d s = 1 + ( 1 y 2 ) 2 d y ds = \sqrt{1 + \bigg(-\frac{1}{y^2}\bigg)^2}dy

d s = y 4 + 1 y 2 d y ds = \frac{\sqrt{y^4 + 1}}{y^2}dy


Finding Time period T T

Applying Conservation of Energy when they have fallen through height a a

1 2 k ( 1 ) 2 + 2 m g a = 2 1 2 m v 2 + 1 2 k ( 2 2 a 2 ) 2 \frac12k(1)^2 + 2mga = 2\frac12mv^2 + \frac12k\bigg(\frac{2}{2-a}-2\bigg)^2

m g + 2 m g a = m v 2 + 4 m g ( 1 a 2 a ) 2 mg + 2mga = mv^2 + 4mg\bigg(\frac{1-a}{2-a}\bigg)^2

v = g × a ( 2 a 3 ) ( a 4 ) a 2 v = \sqrt{g}×\frac{\sqrt{a(2a-3)(a-4)}}{a-2}

Putting a = 2 y a = 2-y

v = g × ( 2 y ) ( 1 2 y ) ( 2 y ) y v = \sqrt{g}×\frac{\sqrt{(2-y)(1-2y)(-2-y)}}{-y}

d s d t = g × ( y 2 ) ( 2 y 1 ) ( y + 2 ) i y \frac{ds}{dt} = \sqrt{g}×\frac{\sqrt{(y-2)(2y-1)(y+2)}i}{-y}

d s g × ( y 2 ) ( 2 y 1 ) ( y + 2 ) i y = d t \frac{ds}{\sqrt{g}×\frac{\sqrt{(y-2)(2y-1)(y+2)}i}{-y}} = dt

y 4 + 1 y 2 d y g × ( y 2 ) ( 2 y 1 ) ( y + 2 ) i y = d t \frac{\frac{\sqrt{y^4 + 1}}{y^2}dy}{\sqrt{g}×\frac{\sqrt{(y-2)(2y-1)(y+2)}i}{-y}} = dt

t = 1 g 2 2 h y 4 + 1 ( y 2 ) ( 2 y 1 ) ( y + 2 ) × 1 y i d y t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{g}}\int_2^{2-h}-\sqrt{\frac{y^4 + 1}{(y-2)(2y-1)(y+2)}} × \frac{1}{yi} dy

t = 1 10 2 0.5 y 4 + 1 ( y 2 ) ( 2 y 1 ) ( y + 2 ) × 1 y i d y t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{10}} \int_2^{0.5}-\sqrt{\frac{y^4 + 1}{(y-2)(2y-1)(y+2)}} × \frac{1}{yi} dy

t = 0.6846 s e c \boxed{t = 0.6846 sec}

Time Period T = 2 t \text{Time Period } T = 2t

T 1.36937 s e c \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{T \approx 1.36937 sec}}


Therefore, answer = 20 T = 27.387 s e c \text{answer } = 20T = 27.387 sec

@Aryan Sanghi
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Very nice problem and solution.

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Karan Chatrath
Aug 31, 2020

A slightly different approach. Let the coordinates of the particle on the right be:

( x 1 , y 1 ) = ( s , 1 s ) (x_1,y_1) = \left(s,\frac{1}{s}\right)

Let the coordinates of the particle on the left be:

( x 2 , y 2 ) = ( s , 1 s ) (x_2,y_2) = \left(-s,\frac{1}{s}\right)

Total kinematic energy of the system is:

T = m 2 ( x ˙ 1 2 + y ˙ 1 2 ) + m 2 ( x ˙ 2 2 + y ˙ 2 2 ) \mathcal{T}=\frac{m}{2}\left(\dot{x}_1^2 + \dot{y}_1^2\right) + \frac{m}{2}\left(\dot{x}_2^2 + \dot{y}_2^2\right)

The total potential energy of the system is the sum of spring PE and gravitational PE. This comes out to be:

V = m g y 1 + m g y 2 + K 2 ( ( x 2 x 1 ) 2 + ( y 2 y 1 ) 2 L ) 2 \mathcal{V} = mgy_1 + mgy_2 + \frac{K}{2}\left(\sqrt{(x_2-x_1)^2 + (y_2-y_1)^2} - L\right)^2

Plugging in the parameterization and simplifying expressions, one gets:

T = m ( s 4 + 1 s 4 ) s ˙ 2 \mathcal{T} = m\left(\frac{s^4+1}{s^4}\right)\dot{s}^2

V = 4 m g ( s 1 ) 2 + 2 m g s \mathcal{V} = 4mg(s-1)^2 + \frac{2mg}{s}

The energy conservation principle is then applied as such:

T i n i t i a l + V i n i t i a l = T + V \mathcal{T}_{initial} + \mathcal{V}_{initial} = \mathcal{T} + \mathcal{V}

Simplifying the above expression gives:

s ˙ = 1 + s 4 10 s 3 ( 5 s 2 ) 40 s 4 ( s 1 ) 2 \dot{s} = \sqrt{\frac{1+s^4}{10s^3(5s-2)-40s^4(s-1)^2}}

Now, this equation can be separated and integrated. But before doing so, the bounds of oscillation are required to be found. It can be seen that the initial total PE is at s = 0.5 s=0.5 and the same value is obtained again when s = 2 s=2 . This can be observed by inspection or by the plotting the potential energy as a function of s s . So the system oscillated between 0.5 s 2 0.5 \le s \le 2 . The time period can be found by separating the variables and integrating between the bounds. The resulting expression must be multiplied by 2 as movement from one bound to another occurs in half a time period.

Thus:

T = 2 0.5 2 10 s 3 ( 5 s 2 ) 40 s 4 ( s 1 ) 2 1 + s 4 d s T = 2\int_{0.5}^{2}\sqrt{\frac{10s^3(5s-2)-40s^4(s-1)^2}{1+s^4}} \ ds

The rest is all numerics. The answer comes out to be: 20 T 27.38743362322671 \boxed{20T \approx 27.38743362322671}

I just noticed that you solved the problem using energy conservation as well. I guess that makes my solution redundant. Thanks anyway for posting this problem. It is a good one

Karan Chatrath - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thanku very much sir. An excellent Solution too from you. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

@Karan Chatrath sir if you want you can post solutions of magnetism problems in community.
Thier solution will not be reductant and will be deeply appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Yes, I will solve them, as and when I can. I have solved a few till now

Karan Chatrath - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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