Gravitation+SHM

There is an isolated planet having mass 2 M 2M and radius 2 R 2R where M M and R R are the mass and radius of the earth. A simple pendulum having mass m m and length 2 R 2R is made to small oscillations on the planet. Find the time period of S H M SHM of pendulum in seconds

Details and Assumptions

take π = 3.00 , g = 10 m / s 2 , 2 = 1.41 R = 6400 k m \pi=3.00~~,g=10m/s^{2}~~,\sqrt{2}=1.41~~R=6400~km


The answer is 6768.

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3 solutions

Oliver Piattella
Jan 10, 2017

I enjoyed writing down the full equation of motion for the pendulum and then after approximating it for small angles. Let θ \theta be the angle formed by the pendulum with the vertical and ψ \psi be the angle formed by the vertical and the line joining the centre of the planet with the pendulum. Refer to the ugly figure I drew.

The modulus of the gravitational force acting on the pendulum is: F = 2 G M m ( 2 R + x ) 2 F = \frac{2GMm}{(2R + x)^2} Applying Pythagoras' theorem to the lower right triangle, we can establish that: ( 2 R + x ) 2 = 4 R 2 sin 2 θ + 4 R 2 ( 2 cos θ ) 2 (2R + x)^2 = 4R^2\sin^2\theta + 4R^2(2 - \cos\theta)^2 and thus F = G M m 2 R 2 ( 5 4 cos θ ) F = \frac{GMm}{2R^2(5 - 4\cos\theta)} Only the tangential component contributes to the motion, so we need to establish sin ( θ + ψ ) \sin(\theta+\psi) . Using a bit of trigonometry, we have tan ψ = sin θ 2 cos θ \tan\psi = \frac{\sin\theta}{2 - \cos\theta} and so we can write the equation of motion as: θ ¨ + G M sin [ θ + arctan ( sin θ 2 cos θ ) ] 4 R 3 ( 5 4 cos θ ) = 0 \ddot\theta + \frac{GM\sin[\theta + \arctan(\frac{\sin\theta}{2 - \cos\theta})]}{4R^3(5 - 4\cos\theta)} = 0 For θ 1 \theta \ll 1 , we can expand the second term and obtain: θ ¨ + G M 2 R 3 θ = 0 \ddot\theta + \frac{GM}{2R^3}\theta = 0 The factor multiplying θ \theta is the squared angular velocity ω 2 \omega^2 . Thus, knowing that g = G M / R 2 g = GM/R^2 , we have that the period is: T = 2 π ω = 2 π 2 R g T = \frac{2\pi}{\omega} = 2\pi\sqrt{\frac{2R}{g}} Substituting the numbers given by the problem, one obtains the result.

I got the same! Shit! It was a silly mistake

Md Zuhair - 4 years, 3 months ago

Nice solution. Did not derive all this stuff but knew the general result so got the answer in 5 sec.!!!

time period of a long pendulum is given by 2 π ( 1 R + 1 l ) g \frac { 2\pi }{ \sqrt { \left( \frac { 1 }{ R } +\frac { 1 }{ l } \right) g } } , use this formula and put the values of g and r effective on that planet !

Rohit Gupta
May 19, 2015

Time period of a long pendulum is given by 2 π ( 1 R + 1 l ) g \frac { 2\pi }{ \sqrt { \left( \frac { 1 }{ R } +\frac { 1 }{ l } \right) g } }
g=GM/R^2 therefore g at the surface of planet will be g/2
l=2R
putting all values and solving we will get 6768


Nicely done! , its a request can u provide me the proof of the time period

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years ago

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Finally I managed to upload image Finally I managed to upload image

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

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Thank u sir

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years ago

I can prove it but the problem here is i need to make a diagram, and i am not able to find any ways here to upload an image in reply..

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

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May be u can add proof to ur solution and there is an 'ínsert an image' option

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years ago

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@Tanishq Varshney Can you mention the radius of earth? I didn't attempt because of that.

Vishwak Srinivasan - 6 years ago

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@Vishwak Srinivasan U should try this

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years ago

@Tanishq Varshney There was not an option of insert image.. but there is a way around that i learned from some other thread...Here it is you may find it helpful as well draw diagrams using paint.
First upload the diagram on imgur. Then type:
! [ anything] ( url of the image). Without spaces. :)

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

But its not giving the answer

Kyle Finch - 6 years ago

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i have got the answer by the same formula.. put 2R instead of R and l and put g/2 instead of g 2 π 1 2 R + 1 2 R g 2 \frac { 2\pi }{ \sqrt { \frac { 1 }{ 2R } +\frac { 1 }{ 2R } *\frac { g }{ 2 } } }

2 π 2 R g \Rightarrow 2\pi \sqrt { \frac { 2R }{ g } }

Rohit Gupta - 6 years ago

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