A bobbin rolls without slipping on a horizontal surface so that the velocity v of the end of the thread (point A ) is directed along the horizontal. A board hinged at point B leans against the bobbin making an angle 2 x with the horizontal. The inner and outer radii of the bobbin are r and R respectively.
If the angular velocity w of the board can be expressed in terms of x as r + R k v ( sin x ) 2 , find the magnitude of k .
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w is the angular velocity of the board. w = 2 d t d x so the answer should be 4 .
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Is it really necessary to do all that diffrentiation? Wont it suffice if the component of velocity perpendicular to rod is calculated and w found using v=wr? Also is the given angle equal to 2x at any point in time or at some point in time?
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Yeah, it is your wish if you want to do differentiation or not. Given angle is 2x at some point in time. See if 2x would have been at any point in time then w would have been zero as the rod would not be rotating. The answer needs to be corrected.
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@Mietantei Conan – Now the question has been corrected.
Thank you for your comment. Please check back the question. It has been corrected.
I'm not very good at rotational motion - could you show me the derivation of r + R v R ? Thanks
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Suppose the bobbin is rotating with an angular velocity w (this w is different from the board's) and the velocity of the center of bobbin be u .
Now, again the point on the bobbin on the same horizontal as of A has a velocity of v (given).
Hence, we have v = u + wr
Also, since the bobbin pure rolling, we have u = wR (pure rolling condition states that the bottom-most point should be instantaneously at rest)
After eliminating w from the above two equations we get
u = r + R v R
Rather than going by Differentiation approach .
I Used the fact that as bobbin and board are in contact with each other there relative velocity along the common normal = 0
Call velocity of centre of mass of bobbin be vcm then angular speed of bobbin =vcm/(R+r)
Velocity of point of contact on bobbin along common normal = vcm*sin(2x)
Velocity of point of contact on board along common normal = w*Rcotx
where w is angular velocity of board . equate them and get desired result
Can you please clear my query what would be the velocity of the point of contact of the board and the bobbin?
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From pure rolling condition, we have the velocity of the center of the bobbins as r + R v R .
Now let s denote the displacement of the center of the bobbin with respect to point B along the horizontal. Then
S d x d s d t d s d x d t = = = R cot x − R csc 2 x − R csc 2 x
But as s increases, x decreases, i.e.: d x is negative for positive d s . Therefore, the minus sign will be neglected. Also d t d s is the velocity of the center of the bobbin. Hence
r + R v R d x d t = R csc 2 x ⇒ d t d x = sin 2 x r + R v .
Also 2 d t d x is the required ω :
ω = 2 sin 2 x r + R v = r + R 2 v sin 2 x .
Hence, (k = 2 ).