Heronian Triangle Dissection B

Geometry Level 4

A Heronian triangle of sides ( 195 , 210 , 225 ) (195, 210, 225) is dissected by a blue line.

A circle is inscribed in each of the smaller triangles.

The distance between the two tangent points on the blue line is 64 64 .

What's the length of the blue line?

Note: Many thanks to those that have reported a mistake with this problem, which has been fixed.


The answer is 182.

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5 solutions

Chris Lewis
Feb 28, 2020

Per the diagram below, let the triangle be A B C ABC , with A B = 195 AB=195 , B C = 225 BC=225 , C A = 210 CA=210 , and let the point the blue line meets B C BC be D D .

Further, let the tangency point of the incircle of Δ A B D \Delta ABD on B D BD be E E and the tangency point of the incircle of Δ A C D \Delta ACD on C D CD be F F .

Now, the distances to the tangency points along A D AD are equal to D E DE and D F DF (using this property) - that is, D E D F = 64 DE-DF=64 .

We have D E = 1 2 ( A D + B D A B ) DE=\frac12 (AD+BD-AB) and D F = 1 2 ( A D + C D C A ) DF=\frac12 (AD+CD-CA) .

Subtracting, we get D E D F = 1 2 ( B D C D + C A A B ) DE-DF=\frac12 (BD-CD+CA-AB) .

Substituting in, this is 64 = 1 2 ( B D C D + 210 195 ) 64=\frac12 (BD-CD+210-195) , so that B D C D = 113 BD-CD=113 .

Also, B D + C D = B C = 225 BD+CD=BC=225 ; so B D = 169 BD=169 and C D = 56 CD=56 .

Using the cosine rule in triangles Δ A B C \Delta ABC and Δ A B D \Delta ABD , we find

cos B = A B 2 + B C 2 C A 2 2 A B B C = A B 2 + B D 2 A D 2 2 A B B D \cos B=\frac{AB^2+BC^2-CA^2}{2AB\cdot BC}=\frac{AB^2+BD^2-AD^2}{2AB\cdot BD}

Solving, we find A D = 182 AD=\boxed{182} . A nice bonus fact is that both Δ A B D \Delta ABD and Δ A C D \Delta ACD are also Heronian.

Nibedan Mukherjee
Feb 29, 2020

Mark Hennings
Feb 28, 2020

Let the 225 225 side be split into lengths of x x and 225 x 225-x , and let the length of the blue line be s s . Then the distance from the top vertex to the meeting point of the blue line with the left incircle is 1 2 ( 195 + s x ) \tfrac12(195 + s - x) , while the distance from the top vertex to the meeting point of the blue line with the right incircle is 1 2 ( 210 + s ( 225 x ) ) = 1 2 ( s + x 15 ) \tfrac12(210 + s - (225-x)) = \tfrac12(s + x - 15) , so that 64 = 1 2 ( s + x 15 ) 1 2 ( 195 + s x ) = x 105 64 \; = \; \tfrac12(s+x-15)-\tfrac12(195+s-x) \; = \; x - 105 and hence x = 169 x = 169 . The Cosine Rule gives the left-hand angle as having cosine 33 65 \tfrac{33}{65} , and hence s = 182 s = \boxed{182} .

Chew-Seong Cheong
Feb 28, 2020

Label the figure as shown. Let D A C = α \angle DAC = \alpha and B A D = β \angle BAD = \beta , the radius of the big and small circles be R R and r r respectively. We note that:

{ r tan α 2 R tan β 2 = 64 . . . ( 1 ) r tan α 2 + r tan C 2 = 210 r = 210 tan α 2 tan C 2 tan α 2 + tan C 2 . . . ( 2 ) R tan β 2 + R tan B 2 = 195 R = 195 tan β 2 tan B 2 tan β 2 + tan B 2 . . . ( 3 ) \begin{cases} \dfrac r{\tan \frac \alpha 2} - \dfrac R{\tan \frac \beta 2} = 64 & & ...(1) \\ \dfrac r{\tan \frac \alpha 2} + \dfrac r{\tan \frac C 2} = 210 & \implies r = \dfrac {210 \tan \frac \alpha 2 \tan \frac C 2}{\tan \frac \alpha 2 + \tan \frac C 2} & ...(2) \\ \dfrac R{\tan \frac \beta 2} + \dfrac R{\tan \frac B 2} = 195 & \implies R = \dfrac {195 \tan \frac \beta 2 \tan \frac B 2}{\tan \frac \beta 2 + \tan \frac B 2} & ...(3) \end{cases}

Then ( 1 ) (1) becomes 210 tan C 2 tan α 2 + tan C 2 195 tan B 2 tan β 2 + tan B 2 = 64 . . . ( 1 a ) \dfrac {210 \tan \frac C 2}{\tan \frac \alpha 2 + \tan \frac C 2} - \dfrac {195 \tan \frac B 2}{\tan \frac \beta 2 + \tan \frac B 2} = 64 \quad ...(1a) .

Using cosine rule : 19 5 2 = 21 0 2 + 22 5 2 2 × 210 × 225 cos C 195^2 = 210^2 + 225^2 - 2\times 210 \times 225 \cos C , we get cos C = 3 5 \cos C = \dfrac 35 . Using half-angle tangent substitution , 1 tan 2 C 2 1 + tan 2 C 2 = 3 5 tan C 2 = 1 2 \dfrac {1-\tan^2 \frac C2} {1+\tan^2 \frac C2} = \dfrac 35 \implies \tan \dfrac C2 = \dfrac 12 . Similarly, we get tan B 2 = 4 7 \tan \dfrac B 2 = \dfrac 47 and tan A 2 = 2 3 \tan \dfrac A2 = \dfrac 23 . Since α 2 + β 2 = A 2 \dfrac \alpha 2 + \dfrac \beta 2 = \dfrac A 2 , tan β 2 = 2 3 tan α 2 1 + 2 3 tan α 2 = 2 3 tan α 2 3 + 2 tan α 2 \implies \tan \dfrac \beta 2 = \dfrac {\frac 23 - \tan \frac \alpha 2}{1+\frac 23 \tan \frac \alpha 2} = \dfrac {2-3\tan \frac \alpha 2}{3+2\tan \frac \alpha 2} . Let t = tan α 2 t = \tan \dfrac \alpha 2 ; then equation ( 1 a ) (1a) becomes:

210 2 t + 1 60 ( 3 + 2 t ) 2 t = 64 Rearrange 56 t 2 + 441 56 = 0 ( 8 t 1 ) ( 7 t + 56 ) = 0 As t = tan α 2 > 0 tan α 2 = 1 8 \begin{aligned} \frac {210}{2t+1} - \frac {60(3+2t)}{2-t} & = 64 & \small \blue{\text{Rearrange}} \\ 56 t^2 + 441 - 56 & = 0 \\ (8t-1)(7t +56) & = 0 & \small \blue{\text{As }t = \tan \frac \alpha 2 > 0} \\ \implies \tan \frac \alpha 2 & = \frac 18 \end{aligned}

By sine rule , the length of the blue line A D AD is given by:

A D sin C = 210 sin ( 18 0 α C ) Note that sin ( 18 0 θ ) = sin θ A D = 210 sin C sin ( α + C ) and sin α = 2 t 1 + t 2 = 16 65 = 210 × 4 5 16 65 × 3 5 + 63 65 × 4 5 = 182 \begin{aligned} \frac {AD}{\sin C} & = \frac {210}{\blue{\sin (180^\circ - \alpha - C)}} & \small \blue{\text{Note that }\sin (180^\circ - \theta) = \sin \theta} \\ \implies AD & = \frac {210 \sin C}{\blue{\sin (\alpha + C)}} & \small \blue{\text{and }\sin \alpha = \frac {2t}{1+t^2} = \frac {16}{65}} \\ & = \frac {210 \times \frac 45}{\frac {16}{65}\times \frac 35 + \frac {63}{65}\times \frac 45} \\ & = \boxed{182} \end{aligned}

A beautiful solution of this problem was given by Chris Lewis . The only change is in the distance between the two tangent points. Following him, we get the final equation connecting the length of the blue line l l as 225 l 2 = 225 ( 19 5 2 + 16 9 2 ) 169 ( 19 5 2 + 22 5 2 21 0 2 ) = 7452900 225l^2=225(195^2+169^2)-169(195^2+225^2-210^2)=7452900 , or l = 7452900 225 = 182 l=\sqrt {\dfrac{7452900}{225}}=\boxed {182} .

I hope Chris Lewis will post his solution again. I'm sorry I had to take it down the first time around. I feel bad about that.

Michael Mendrin - 1 year, 3 months ago

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Thanks both - now posted!

Chris Lewis - 1 year, 3 months ago

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Finally you were able to draw the diagramme. How to draw these?

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 3 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member I just copied the original diagram into MS Paint and added the labels. @Michael Mendrin , what software did you use for the original?

Chris Lewis - 1 year, 3 months ago

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@Chris Lewis Mathematica, which does have some downsides.

Michael Mendrin - 1 year, 3 months ago

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