Highly Elliptical Area

Geometry Level 5

An ellipse is inscribed in a right triangle such that its major and minor axes are parallel to the perpendicular legs of the right triangle.

If the area of the ellipse is A 1 A_1 , the area of the right triangle is A 2 A_2 , and the maximum value of A 1 A 2 \dfrac {A_1}{A_2} is π ( a b ) \pi (a - \sqrt b) , where a a and b b are positive integers, find a 2 + b 2 a^2+b^2 .


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The answer is 73.

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Aryan Sanghi
Sep 11, 2020

Let's solve using coordinate geometry

Let the perpendicular sides be coordinate axes and y = m x + c y = mx + c be hypotenuse.

So, if coordinates of center of ellipse are a , b a, b , it's lengths of are also semi-major and semi-minor axes are a , b a, b in any order.

So, equation of ellipse is

( x a ) 2 a 2 + ( y b ) 2 b 2 = 1 \frac{(x-a)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(y-b)^2}{b^2} = 1

b 2 x 2 + a 2 y 2 2 a b 2 x 2 a 2 b y + a 2 b 2 = 0 b^2x^2 + a^2y^2 - 2ab^2x - 2a^2by + a^2b^2 = 0

Putting y = m x + c y = mx + c in equation

b 2 x 2 + a 2 ( m x + c ) 2 2 a b 2 x 2 a 2 b ( m x + c ) + a 2 b 2 = 0 b^2x^2 + a^2(mx + c)^2 - 2ab^2x - 2a^2b(mx + c) + a^2b^2 = 0

x 2 ( b 2 + a 2 m 2 ) + x ( 2 m c a 2 2 a b 2 2 a 2 b m ) + ( a 2 c 2 + a 2 b 2 2 a 2 b c ) = 0 x^2(b^2 + a^2m^2) + x(2mca^2 - 2ab^2 - 2a^2bm) + (a^2c^2 + a^2b^2 - 2a^2bc) = 0

As line touches the ellipse, do Discriminant D = 0 D = 0

( 2 m c a 2 2 a b 2 2 a 2 b m ) 2 4 ( b 2 + a 2 m 2 ) ( a 2 c 2 + a 2 b 2 2 a 2 b c ) = 0 (2mca^2 - 2ab^2 - 2a^2bm)^2 - 4(b^2 + a^2m^2)(a^2c^2 + a^2b^2 - 2a^2bc) = 0

Solving and sumplifying above equation, we get

a = c 2 2 b c 2 m ( b c ) \boxed{a = \frac{c^2 - 2bc}{2m(b-c)}}


Now, let's minimise area of ellipse

A = π a b A = \pi ab

A = π c 2 2 b c 2 m ( b c ) b A = \pi \frac{c^2 - 2bc}{2m(b-c)}b

A = π c 2 m c b 2 b 2 ( b c ) A = \frac{\pi c}{2m} \frac{cb - 2b^2}{(b-c)}

For minimising area,

d A d b = 0 \frac{dA}{db} = 0

π c 2 m ( b c ) ( c 4 b ) ( b c 2 b 2 ) ( b c ) 2 = 0 \frac{\pi c}{2m} \frac{(b-c)(c-4b) - (bc-2b^2)}{(b-c)^2} = 0

2 b 2 4 b c + c 2 = 0 2b^2 - 4bc + c^2 = 0

Solving and taking smaller value as solution

b = c ( 1 1 2 ) \boxed{b = c\bigg(1 - \frac{1}{\sqrt2}\bigg)}

Putting value of b b in area expression

A = π c 2 m b c 2 b ( b c ) A = \frac{\pi c}{2m} b\frac{c - 2b}{(b-c)}

A 1 = π c 2 m c ( 1 1 2 ) c 2 c ( 1 1 2 ) ( c ( 1 1 2 ) c ) A_1 = \frac{\pi c}{2m} c\bigg(1 - \frac{1}{\sqrt2}\bigg)\frac{c - 2c(1 - \frac{1}{\sqrt2})}{(c(1 - \frac{1}{\sqrt2})-c)}

A 1 = π c 2 2 m ( 3 8 ) \boxed{A_1 = -\frac{\pi c^2}{2m}(3-\sqrt8)}

Now, Finding area of triangle

A 2 = 1 2 c m c A_2 = \frac12\frac{-c}{m}c A 2 = c 2 2 m \boxed{A_2 = -\frac{c^2}{2m}}

Therefore

A 1 A 2 = π ( 3 8 ) \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{\frac{A_1}{A_2} = \pi(3 - \sqrt8)}}


So, a = 3 , b = 8 , a 2 + b 2 = 73 a = 3, b = 8, a^2 + b^2 = 73

Visualisation: Maximum area of ellipse is about 53.9 % 53.9\% of triangle's area.

David Vreken
Sep 12, 2020

We can stretch and skew the whole diagram and still preserve the ratio of areas, so we can make A B C \triangle ABC an isosceles right triangle with unit legs and an area of A 2 = 1 2 1 1 = 1 2 A_2 = \frac{1}{2} \cdot 1 \cdot 1 = \frac{1}{2} . The ellipse will reach its maximum when it is a circle (see edit below), which also happens to be the incircle:

The radius of the incircle is r = A 2 s = 1 2 1 2 ( 1 + 1 + 2 = 1 2 ( 2 2 ) r = \frac{A_2}{s} = \frac{\frac{1}{2}}{\frac{1}{2}(1 + 1 + \sqrt{2}} = \frac{1}{2}(2 - \sqrt{2}) , so the area of the ellipse (or in this case circle) is A 1 = π ( 1 2 ( 2 2 ) ) 2 = π 2 ( 3 2 2 ) A_1 = \pi (\frac{1}{2}(2 - \sqrt{2}))^2 = \frac{\pi}{2}(3 - 2\sqrt{2}) .

That means the ratio is A 1 A 2 = π 2 ( 3 2 2 ) 1 2 = π ( 3 8 ) \frac{A_1}{A_2} = \frac{\frac{\pi}{2}(3 - 2\sqrt{2})}{\frac{1}{2}} = \pi(3 - \sqrt{8}) . Therefore, a = 3 a = 3 , b = 8 b = 8 , and a 2 + b 2 = 73 a^2 + b^2 = \boxed{73} .


Edit:

A C AC is on y = x + 1 y = -x + 1 and the ellipse tangent to A B AB and B C BC has an equation of ( x a ) 2 a 2 + ( x b ) 2 b 2 = 1 \frac{(x - a)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(x - b)^2}{b^2} = 1 . Let ( k , k + 1 ) (k, -k + 1) on A C AC also be tangent to the ellipse. Then using the derivative of the equation of the ellipse, 2 ( x a ) a 2 + 2 ( y b ) d y d x b 2 = 0 \frac{2(x - a)}{a^2} + \frac{2(y - b)\frac{dy}{dx}}{b^2} = 0 or 2 ( k a ) a 2 + 2 ( k + 1 b ) ( 1 ) b 2 = 0 \frac{2(k - a)}{a^2} + \frac{2(-k + 1 - b)(-1)}{b^2} = 0 or ( k + 1 b ) a 2 = ( k a ) b 2 (-k + 1 - b)a^2 = (k - a)b^2 , and since ( k , k + 1 ) (k, -k + 1) is on the ellipse, ( k a ) 2 a 2 + ( k + 1 b ) 2 b 2 = 1 \frac{(k - a)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(-k + 1 - b)^2}{b^2} = 1 . These two equations solve to a = 2 k + 1 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k a = \frac{2k + 1 - \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k} and b = 2 k 3 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 4 b = \frac{2k - 3 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k - 4} .

The area of the ellipse is A = π a b = π 2 k + 1 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 2 k 3 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 4 = π 2 k 2 2 k 1 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k ( k 1 ) A = \pi ab = \pi \cdot \frac{2k + 1 - \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k} \cdot \frac{2k - 3 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k - 4} = \pi \cdot \frac{2k^2 - 2k - 1 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k(k - 1)} . Its derivative is A = π ( 2 k 1 ) ( 2 k 2 2 k 1 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 ( k 1 ) 2 k 2 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 A' = \frac{\pi(2k - 1)(2k^2 - 2k - 1 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4(k - 1)^2k^2\sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}} , and equals zero only at k = 1 2 k = \frac{1}{2} . Since A A is concave down, this is the only maximum point, so there is only one ellipse with a maximum area when k = 1 2 k = \frac{1}{2} , which calculates to A = π 2 ( 3 2 2 ) A = \frac{\pi}{2}(3 - 2\sqrt{2}) .

Excellent solution sir. Thanku for sharing it with us. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months ago

It's important to note that the Steiner inellipse, which has the maximum area among the inscribed ellipses, goes through the midpoints of the triangle sides.

For this specific configuration, where is your proof that only the "circle" will reach the maximum value? I am not sure how you deduced that using symmetry. Please elaborate.

Atomsky Jahid - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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Sir, I can't read your reply as you deleted your comment. If it is important, you could reply here. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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I accidentally deleted my comment instead of editing it. The equation will be a quadratic polynomial in a a . I didn't notice there were a 2 a^2 in all of the terms.

Atomsky Jahid - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Atomsky Jahid No, when you'll simply, you'll see all the a 2 a^2 terms cancel out. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

I reasoned that for every ellipse (except the circle), there will be a matching ellipse the same size (like the two ellipses below) due to the symmetry of the right isosceles triangle:

Since the question assumed a maximum, I deduced that this happened when the ellipse was a circle.

David Vreken - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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But, why there can't be two ellipse with maximum area sir?

Aryan Sanghi - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Aryan Sanghi Hmmm. I thought one maximum was assumed by the question, but now that I'm re-reading it that may not be true. I may have to use some calculus to prove it.

David Vreken - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@David Vreken A C AC is on y = x + 1 y = -x + 1 and the ellipse tangent to A B AB and B C BC has an equation of ( x a ) 2 a 2 + ( x b ) 2 b 2 = 1 \frac{(x - a)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(x - b)^2}{b^2} = 1 . Let ( k , k + 1 ) (k, -k + 1) on A C AC also be tangent to the ellipse. Then using the derivative of the equation of the ellipse, 2 ( x a ) a 2 + 2 ( y b ) d y d x b 2 = 0 \frac{2(x - a)}{a^2} + \frac{2(y - b)\frac{dy}{dx}}{b^2} = 0 or 2 ( k a ) a 2 + 2 ( k + 1 b ) ( 1 ) b 2 = 0 \frac{2(k - a)}{a^2} + \frac{2(-k + 1 - b)(-1)}{b^2} = 0 or ( k + 1 b ) a 2 = ( k a ) b 2 (-k + 1 - b)a^2 = (k - a)b^2 , and since ( k , k + 1 ) (k, -k + 1) is on the ellipse, ( k a ) 2 a 2 + ( k + 1 b ) 2 b 2 = 1 \frac{(k - a)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(-k + 1 - b)^2}{b^2} = 1 . These two equations solve to a = 2 k + 1 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k a = \frac{2k + 1 - \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k} and b = 2 k 3 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 4 b = \frac{2k - 3 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k - 4} .

The area of the ellipse is A = π a b = π 2 k + 1 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 2 k 3 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k 4 = π 2 k 2 2 k 1 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 k ( k 1 ) A = \pi ab = \pi \cdot \frac{2k + 1 - \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k} \cdot \frac{2k - 3 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k - 4} = \pi \cdot \frac{2k^2 - 2k - 1 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4k(k - 1)} . Its derivative is A = π ( 2 k 1 ) ( 2 k 2 2 k 1 + 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 4 ( k 1 ) 2 k 2 4 k 2 + 4 k + 1 A' = \frac{\pi(2k - 1)(2k^2 - 2k - 1 + \sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}}{4(k - 1)^2k^2\sqrt{-4k^2 + 4k + 1}} , and equals zero only at k = 1 2 k = \frac{1}{2} . Since A A is concave down, this is the only maximum point, so there is only one ellipse with a maximum area when k = 1 2 k = \frac{1}{2} , which calculates to A = π 2 ( 3 2 2 ) A = \frac{\pi}{2}(3 - 2\sqrt{2}) .

David Vreken - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@David Vreken Feels sad that such a calculation is necessary. :( I wish there could be a more elegant approach.

Atomsky Jahid - 8 months, 3 weeks ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Sep 21, 2020

Let the ellipse be x 2 a 2 + y 2 b 2 = 1 \dfrac {x^2}{a^2} + \dfrac {y^2}{b^2} = 1 , where a a and b b are the major semiaxis and minor semiaxis respectively, and the right triangle be A B C \triangle ABC . To find the maximum value of A 1 A 2 \dfrac {A_1}{A_2} is same as finding the minimum value of A 2 A_2 with the a fixed A 1 A_1 or fixed a a and b b . Since O Q R \triangle OQR is similar to A B C \triangle ABC , we can consider O Q R \triangle OQR .

The gradient of a point on an ellipse is given by differentiating the equation on both sides with respect to x x , 2 x a 2 + 2 y b 2 d y d x = 0 d y d x = b 2 x a 2 y \dfrac {2x}{a^2} + \dfrac {2y}{b^2} \cdot \dfrac {dy}{dx} = 0 \implies \dfrac {dy}{dx} = - \dfrac {b^2x}{a^2y} . Let the hypotenuse Q P QP tangent to the ellipse at P ( u , v ) P(u,v) . Then we have y v x u = b 2 u a 2 v \dfrac {y-v}{x-u} = - \dfrac {b^2u}{a^2v} . Let Q ( 0 , y 0 ) Q(0, y_0) and R ( x 0 , 0 ) R(x_0, 0) . Then y 0 v u = b 2 u a 2 v y 0 = b 2 u 2 a 2 v + v = b 2 v ( u 2 a 2 + v 2 b 2 1 ) = b 2 v \dfrac {y_0-v}{-u} = - \dfrac {b^2u}{a^2v} \implies y_0 = \dfrac {b^2u^2}{a^2v} + v = \dfrac {b^2}v \left(\cancel{\dfrac {u^2}{a^2} + \dfrac {v^2}{b^2}}^\red{\ 1} \right) = \dfrac {b^2}v . Similarly, x 0 = a 2 u x_0 = \dfrac {a^2}u . Let u = a cos θ u = a\cos \theta and v = b sin θ v=b\sin \theta . Then x 0 = a cos θ x_0 = \dfrac a{\cos \theta} and y 0 = b sin θ y_0 = \dfrac b{\sin \theta} .

Let the area of O Q R \triangle OQR be A A . Then A = x 0 y 0 2 = a b 2 sin θ cos θ = a b sin ( 2 θ ) A = \dfrac {x_0y_0}2 = \dfrac {ab}{2\sin \theta \cos \theta} = \dfrac {ab}{\sin (2\theta)} . A min = a b \implies A_{\min} = ab , when sin ( 2 θ ) = 1 \sin (2\theta) = 1 , or θ = π 4 \theta = \dfrac \pi 4 , or x 0 = 2 a x_0 = \sqrt 2 a and y 0 = 2 b y_0 = \sqrt 2 b .

Let A ( a , y 1 A(-a, y_1 and B ( x 1 , b ) B(x_1, -b) . By similar triangle y 1 x 0 + a = y 0 x 0 y 1 2 a + a = b a y 1 = ( 1 + 2 ) b \dfrac {y_1}{x_0+a} = \dfrac {y_0}{x_0} \implies \dfrac {y_1}{\sqrt 2 a +a} = \dfrac ba \implies y_1 = (1+\sqrt 2)b . Similarly, x 1 = ( 1 + 2 ) a x_1 = (1+\sqrt 2)a . Then C A = y 1 + b = ( 2 + 2 ) b CA = y_1 + b = (2+\sqrt 2)b and B C = ( 2 + 2 ) a BC = (2+\sqrt 2)a . Then A 2 min = ( 2 + 2 ) 2 a b 2 = ( 3 + 2 2 ) a b A_{2\min} = \dfrac {(2+\sqrt 2)^2ab}2 = (3+2\sqrt 2)ab . Then we have:

A 1 A 2 min = π a b ( 3 + 2 2 ) a b = π ( 3 2 2 ) 9 8 = π ( 3 8 ) \frac {A_1}{A_{2\min}} = \frac {\pi ab}{(3+2\sqrt 2)ab} = \frac {\pi(3-2\sqrt 2)}{9-8} = \pi(3-\sqrt 8)

Then a 2 + b 2 = 3 2 + 8 2 = 73 \bold a^2 + \bold b^2 = 3^2 + 8^2 = \boxed{73} (here a \bold a and b \bold b are not the semiaxes).

Excellent solution sir. Thanku for sharing it with us. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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