Ian has an eraser in the shape of a cuboid. He measures the diagonals of the faces of his eraser and gets the lengths 8 5 , 1 3 2 , 5 1 3 . What is the volume of Ian's eraser?
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I don't know if anyone noticed it, but l 2 + b 2 + h 2 is equal to the diagonal D of the cuboid. If we use the Pythagorean Theorem we find D 2 = h 2 + ( l 2 + b 2 ) , because l 2 + b 2 is the diagonal of the base rectangle. Then we could find the height of the cuboid and with that the lenght and breadth too.
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Its good you found it yourself but its already a known property.
But what about the diagonal of cuboid, D ? How do you know that?
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Assume a cuboid has dimensions l , b and h . Let the diagonal of the base rectangle be d . Apply the Pythagorean Theorem and find d = l 2 + b 2 . Now visualize a right triangle of sides d , h and D , being D the diagonal of the cuboid. Hence, D 2 = d 2 + h 2 → D 2 = ( l 2 + b 2 ) 2 + h 2 → D 2 = l 2 + b 2 + h 2 .
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@Eduardo Petry – Okay, but you didn't get my doubt.
It is true that D 2 = h 2 + ( l 2 + b 2 ) . We know what is l 2 + b 2 , and we need to find h . My question is what is the value of D which you will substitute here?
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@Ajay Maity – At first you'd have to do the same process you did until you arrive at l 2 + b 2 + h 2 = 3 7 4 ..... (iv), then use D = 3 7 4 . It's just another way to approach the problem, nothing really special, but I found it worthy to be pointed out.
thnkq :)
Let a , b , c be the sides of the cuboid. We are looking for the volume, which is V = a b c From Pythagorean theorem we get ⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a 2 + b 2 = 8 5 b 2 + c 2 = 2 ⋅ 1 6 9 c 2 + a 2 = 2 5 ⋅ 1 3 From this we can solve for a 2 , b 2 , c 2 , since a 2 = 2 ( a 2 + b 2 ) + ( c 2 + a 2 ) − ( b 2 + c 2 ) So we get ⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a 2 = 2 8 5 + 3 2 5 − 3 3 8 = 3 6 b 2 = 2 8 5 + 3 3 8 − 3 2 5 = 4 9 c 2 = 2 3 3 8 + 3 2 5 − 8 5 = 2 8 9 and we finally get a = 6 , b = 7 , c = 1 7 Which leads us to V = 6 ⋅ 7 ⋅ 1 7 = 7 1 4
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nice one.
Let the length of the eraser is = x , width = y and height = z
Then diagonal between length and width ⟹ x 2 + y 2 = 8 5
⟹ x 2 + y 2 = 8 5 . . . . ( i )
And, the diagonal between width and height ⟹ y 2 + z 2 = 1 3 2
⟹ y 2 + z 2 = 3 3 8 . . . . ( i i )
And the diagonal between length and height ⟹ x 2 + z 2 = 5 1 3
⟹ x 2 + z 2 = 3 2 5 . . . . ( i i i )
Solving (i), (ii) and (iii) we get the values of length x = 6 , width y = 7 and height z = 1 7 .
So, the volume of the eraser is = x × y × z ⟹ 6 × 7 × 1 7 ⟹ 7 1 4
We know that the answer has to be an integer (thanks Brilliant!). We know that the diagonals are of lengths 8 5 , 3 3 8 and 3 2 5 . Let us try to decompose 8 5 , 3 3 8 and 3 2 5 into the sum of squares (since the diagonals are the square root of the sum of the squares of the sides).
With some trial and error, we find:
8 5 = 4 9 + 3 6 = 7 2 + 6 2
3 3 8 = 2 8 9 + 4 9 = 1 7 2 + 7 2
3 2 5 = 3 6 + 2 8 9 = 6 2 + 1 7 2
Hence, the side lengths are 6 , 7 and 1 7 , giving us a volume of 6 × 7 × 1 7 = 7 1 4
Same solution as mine :)
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Yeah, but it's only easy because the numbers here are small... : ) Otherwise, the other methods are obviously far better.
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Hi Raj! In fact brilliant answers are integers, thus in this case the volume has to be an integer, but this fact do not imply that the sides are integers. For example the sides can be of the form ( m , n 2 , p 2 ) , where m , n , p are integers.
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@Jorge Tipe – Right, of course! It's only because 85 was easily decomposed into 49 + 36 that I solved it this way.
Trial and Error, how must people find answers!
I USED THE SAME METHOD:)
Let a > b > c > 0 be the length of the sides of this cuboid, we have : ⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a 2 + b 2 = 1 6 9 × 2 = 3 3 8 . ( 1 ) a 2 + c 2 = 2 5 × 1 3 = 3 2 5 ( 2 ) b 2 + c 2 = 8 5 . ( 3 ) Now : ( 1 ) + ( 2 ) − ( 3 ) ⇔ 2 a 2 = 5 7 8 ⟹ a = 1 7 . With the same technique we get : b = 7 , and: c = 6 .
the volume is : 1 7 × 7 × 6 = 7 1 4 .
Draw figure. h² + l² = (√85)² = 85, l² + b² = (13√2)² = 339 , b² + h² = (5√13)² = 325
adding 2(l² + b² + h²) = 748, then (l² + b² + h²) = 374 solving above equations,
b² = 289, and b = 17 h² = 36 and h = 6 l² = 49, and l = 7
volume = 17 × 6 × 7 = 714
Let the dimensions be L x B x H
So using the Pythagoras theorem, let the first diagonal be √(l^2 + h^2) = √85....................................1
Similarly, √(h^2 + h^2) = 5√13 ....................................2
and √(h^2 + b^2) = 13√2 ....................................3
On squaring both sides of 1, 2 and 3, we get l^2 + h^2 = 85
h^2 + b^2 = 169 x 2
and l^2 + b^2 = 25 x 13
On solving the equation, we get the three variables l=6, b=17 and h=7.
So volume = l x b x h = 17 x 7 x 6 = 714
Suppose the sides are a , b , c , then by the Pythagorean theorem we get a 2 + b 2 = 8 5 b 2 + c 2 = ( 1 3 ⋅ 2 ) 2 c 2 + a 2 = ( 5 ⋅ 1 3 ) 2 Solving this yields ( a , b , c ) = ( 6 , 7 , 1 7 ) , hence the volume is 6 ⋅ 7 ⋅ 1 7 = 7 1 4
Suppose the sides are a , b , c . We get three equations.
a 2 + b 2 = 8 5 ⟹ a 2 + b 2 = 8 5 b 2 + c 2 = 1 3 2 ⟹ b 2 + c 2 = 3 3 8 c 2 + a 2 = 5 1 3 ⟹ c 2 + a 2 = 3 2 5
Solving these equations is trivial by simply eliminating variables, and we get: ( a , b , c ) = ( 6 , 7 , 1 7 )
Hence the volume is: a b c = 6 ⋅ 7 ⋅ 1 7 = 7 1 4
Let the sides of cuboid = a,b and c So , a^2+b^2=〖(√98)〗^2=98-----(1) b^2+c^2=〖(13√2)〗^2=338-----(2) c^2+a^2=〖(5√13)〗^2=325-----(3) By performing eqn(2)- eqn (3), we have b^2-a^2=13-----(4) Now eqn (1)-eqn (4), we have b=7, Putting b=7 on eqn (2) we got c=17 and putting b=7 on eqn (1) we got a=6 So the volume of Ians eraser is = abc= (6)(7)(17)= 714
a²+b²=85 [1] b²+c²=2 13 13 [2] a²+c²=13*25 [3] Can be easily solved by doing: [1]-[2]+[3]->a=6 and then: b=7 and c=17 So that abc=714
l^2 + b^2 =338
l^2 + h^2=85
b^2+ h^2=325
subtracting 2 eq from 1st eq
and adding to third equation
so b=17 therefore l=7 h=6
volume=l b h=17 7 6=714
Let a , b and c denote the lengths of the sides of the cuboid. We can then write down the following euqations: a 2 + b 2 = 8 5 ⇒ b = 8 5 − a 2 a 2 + c 2 = 3 3 8 ⇒ c = 3 3 8 − a 2 c 2 + b 2 = 3 2 5 ⇒ 8 5 − a 2 + 3 3 8 − a 2 = 3 2 5 ⇒ a = 7 Thus we get that b = 6 and c = 1 7 . We can now conclude that the volume of the eraser is a b c = 6 × 7 × 1 7 = 7 1 4
Using Pythagoras Theorem we get : a^{2}+ b^{2}= 85 and a^{2} + c^{2} = 338 and c^{2} + b^{2} = 325. The letters a,b and c stand for each edge of the cuboid. Rearranging and solving these equations gives us the values of a=7, b=6 and c=17. To get the volume we multiply length by width by height. This gives us 7 \times 6 \times 17= \boxed{714}
There are 3 diagonals: sqrt85, 13 sqrt2, 5 sqrt13. The longest diagonal is 13 sqrt2 and shortest diagonal is sqrt85.
Then, we move on to let the sides of the cuboid be a,b and c. Since the eraser is in the form of a cuboid, the angle between any two sides of the eraser will be 90 degrees. Thus, we can use pythagoras theorem to solve this problem.
a^2 + b^2 = (13 sqrt2)^2 = 338 a^2 + c^2 = (5 sqrt 13)^2 = 325 b^2 + c^2 = (sqrt 85)^2 = 85
Next,add it all up! 2a^2 + 2b^2 + 2c^2 = 748 --> a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 374... Afterwards, find out the individual values of a, b and c. For example, c^2 = 374 - 338 = 36. Therefore c = 6. By doing so, you should get a=17, b=7, c=6. Then multiply them to get the volume of the cuboid: 17X7X6 = 714.
Done! Simple! Please help me by upvoting my solution if it helped you in understanding how to solve this! :)
Let the edges of the eraser have lengths a , b , and c .
By Pythagoras' Theorem the following equations can be written and solved simultaneously:
(1) a 2 + b 2 = ( 8 5 ) 2 = 8 5
(2) b 2 + c 2 = ( 1 3 2 ) 2 = 3 3 8
(3) a 2 + c 2 = ( 5 1 3 ) 2 = 3 2 5
Rearrange (1) to get: a 2 = 8 5 − b 2 and substitute into (3) to get:
a 2 + c 2 = 8 5 − b 2 + c 2 = 3 2 5 ⇒ c 2 = 3 2 5 + b 2 − 8 5 = b 2 + 2 4 0
Substitute this expression for c 2 into equation (2) to get:
b 2 + c 2 = b 2 + b 2 + 2 4 0 = 3 3 8 ⇒ 2 b 2 = 3 3 8 − 2 4 0 = 9 8 ⇔ b 2 = 4 9 ⇔ b = 7
Substitute this value for b into (1) :
a 2 + 7 2 = 8 5 ⇔ a 2 = 8 5 − 4 9 = 3 6 ⇔ a = 6
Substitute b = 7 into (2) to get:
7 2 + c 2 = 3 3 8 ⇔ c 2 = 3 3 8 − 4 9 = 2 8 9 ⇔ c = 1 7
To calculate the volume of the eraser, multiple all the lengths together a × b × c = 6 × 7 × 1 7 = 7 1 4
Assumt that sides of it cuboid is p, q, r. So, (p^2+q^2)^(1/2) = 85^(1/2) ; (p^2+r^2)^(1/2) = 338^(1/2) ; and (r^2+q^2)^(1/2) = 325^(1/2) ----> Then, we must think that (2p^2+2q^2 + 2r^2)^(1/2) = (85+338+325)^(1/2) ---> (p^2+q^2 + r^2)^(1/2) = (748/2)^(1/2) ---> (p^2+q^2+r^2)^(1/2) = 374^(1/2)----> p^2+q^2+r^2 = 374 ---> Next, (p^2+q^2+r^2)-(p^2+q^2) = 374 - 85 ---> r^2 = 289 --> r=17, q=6 , p = 7. Thus, Volume this cuboid(Ian's Eraser) is 6x7x17 = 714. Answer : 714
if X,Y,Z be the dimensions of the eraser, where X>Y>Z. given that,
Y^2+Z^2=85
X^2+Z^2=325
X^2+Y^2=338
X^2+Y^2+Z^2=374
X=17, Y=7, Z=6, so XYZ=714
Using Pythagoras Theorem we can find the length, width and height of the cuboid and hence the volume. :)
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Let us say the dimensions of cuboid are l , b and h .
So,
l 2 + b 2 = 8 5
l 2 + b 2 = 8 5 .......... (i)
b 2 + h 2 = 1 3 2
b 2 + h 2 = 3 3 8 .......... (ii)
h 2 + l 2 = 5 1 3
h 2 + l 2 = 3 2 5 .......... (iii)
Now, lets calculate the values of l , b and h .
Add (i), (ii) and (iii),
l 2 + b 2 + h 2 = 3 7 4 .......... (iv)
Now when we subtract (i), (ii) and (iii) from (iv), we get
l = 6
b = 7
h = 1 7
So, the volume of cuboid is l . b . h
= 7 1 4
That's the answer!