x = 2 π − i ln ( c a ± b )
The principal solution to the equation sin x = 2 3 can be written in the form above.
What is the value of a + b + c ?
Note : i = − 1 .
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nice solution, i had a similar one. as a coincidence the stuff inside the log is ϕ ± 2 where the golden ratio is being used. upvoted!
Excellent! This is exactly the way I arrived at my answer! However, I needed to use u = e i x in order to see that I could solve it like a quadratic haha.
Either way, I don't know why, but it seems apparent to me that you are supposed to drop the plus/minus sign and only use plus sign.
Nice job!
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ln ( x ) is only defined when x > 0 .
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Sorry, but 2 3 − 5 > 0 . Let me think.
This is true, however I just wrote a wiki (on Brilliant) explaining how the natural logarithm can be evaluated for complex numbers and negative numbers. For example ln ( − 1 ) = i π Go onto Brilliant's search bar and type "Complex Logarithms" and my wiki should be the first result
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@Jason Simmons – Thanks for the discussion. I have simplified the solution just using s i n 2 x + cos 2 x = 1 and avoided the negative square-root issue. Check if you substitute the other value for x would it satisfies the equation.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong – Since cos x = ± 1 − sin 2 x , I don't think the negative square-root issue has been resolved.
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@Shaurya Gupta – You are right.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong – Maybe it has something to do with the being the principal solution.
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@Shaurya Gupta – Actually both x = 2 π − i ln ( 2 3 ± 5 ) are correct. Lazy to check, I have used Wolfram Alpha to check it (see here ). It should be "a" principle solution instead of "the". Thanks for the query.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong – Thanks for pointing that out! I'm going to change the problem to ± . By the way, how did you make the hyperlink?
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@Jason Simmons – You key in the comment box here "['link title']" and followed by "('link address')" without any space between them.
@Jason Simmons – Actually both x = 2 π − i ln ( 2 3 ± 5 ) are correct. Lazy to check, I have used Wolfram Alpha to check it (see here ). It should be "a" principle solution instead of "the". Thanks for the query.
With j = − 1 ,
Let x = p - j q,
sin ( p − j q ) = sin p cos j q − cos p sin j q = 2 3
sin p cosh q − j cos p sinh q = 2 3
Comparing independent variables for both real and imaginary, we have:
sin p cosh q = 2 3 and cos p sinh q = 0
For non-real x of non-zero q, sinh q = 0 and therefore cos p = 0 i.e. p = 2 π
With p = 2 π , sin 2 π cosh q = 2 3
⟹ 2 e q + e − q = 2 3
⟹ ( e q ) 2 − 3 ( e q ) + 1 = 0
⟹ e q = 2 3 + 5 {Only + sign is chosen from ± referring to question!}
⟹ q = ln ( 2 3 + 5 )
x = p - j q = 2 π - j ln ( 2 3 + 5 ) {This may not be a principal value.}
But sin [ 2 π - j ln ( 2 3 + 5 ) ] = 2 3 .
Therefore, a + b + c = 3 + 5 + 2 = 10
Answer: 1 0
Very nice! I like how you considered using the hyperbolic trigonometric functions to arrive at your final answer. Regarding your comment "only + sign is chosen from +/- referring to question," I'd like to say this: lately I've been studying Complex Analysis and I have found a derivation for the arcsine in terms of the imaginary unit and the natural logarithm. This is like the sine function being rewritten in terms of the imaginary unit and exponential a. It seems that every arcsine derivation out there simply drops the plus/minus sign and only uses the positive sign. I'm not too sure why this is, but I'll figure out further in my Complex Analysis quest.
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I receive no notification which informed about your reply. Therefore, I have just checked and noticed.
sinh − 1 x = ln [ x + x 2 + 1 ]
cosh − 1 x = ± ln [ x + x 2 − 1 ]
tanh − 1 x = 2 1 ln 1 − x 1 + x
sinh − 1 x has only one value while cosh − 1 x has two values; an odd function sinh y and an even function cosh y respectively. We can draw their graphs to see.
I think you only doubted why the ± inside for cosh − 1 x is only taken for +. Actually, ln [ x − x 2 − 1 ] = − ln [ x + x 2 − 1 ] . This is the only reason! You can try to evaluate both forms using calculator. I think you should find that they are just equal! Proof is available.
Actually, we could have let x = p + j q instead of p - j q right from the beginning. But since your different approach leaded you to choose for p - j q, I just followed what you wanted.
sin [ 2 π + j ln ( 2 3 − 5 ) ] = 2 3 is the same!
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So, before I actually arrived at my final solution which is in the problem description, I got to here:
e i x = i z ± 1 − z , z ∈ C
Then, when all is said and done, I get the final (generalized) solution to the equation sin x = z as
x = − i ln ( i z ± 1 − z ) → two solutions
This is where I dropped the minus sign and I'll explain why.
I checked both solutions (using MapleSoft, WolframAlpha, and other derivations posted online) and it seems that the solution using the - sign doesn't fit in. Perhaps I typed the equation wrong or I wrote something wrong on my calculator. If I get a bad grade on a math exam (very rare) it's because I made a small mistake, but I know you (being a math guy) could understand that the smallest mistake can have the most astonishing results in the end haha.
So I believe what you're saying how both solutions are valid for my equation, I'll have to re-check this, otherwise I would have wrote ± in the initial problem haha.
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@Jason Simmons – Remember that cos θ of full quadrants represented by surd of 1 − z would not be able to work without ± . Therefore, it is natural that you need ± . It is quite usual that people can obtain some expression similar as that when working onto these things. Yet, to obtain its standard forms would need to go through several steps along the way with respect to time. Never got satisfied with little achievement. Nevertheless, this makes a motif of courage for you to investigate onto these. There are many things that may have ceased in schools but the mathematical world in the past had already made a very thorough understanding onto them.
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@Lu Chee Ket – Ah, I see what you're saying. Thanks! I'll have to look a little deeper next time before I post another problem. I always love having mathematical discussions with people.
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@Jason Simmons – You won't have half among your colleagues who took note onto these if you didn't find in class. This question is not too answerable by many people. You won't have to wait until it gets too deep to ask or to set a question.
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@Lu Chee Ket – Correct! I totally agree.
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From Euler's identity, we have:
e i x ⇒ i x x = cos x + i sin x As sin 2 x + cos 2 x = 1 = ± 1 − sin 2 x + i sin x Since sin x = 2 3 = ± 1 − 4 9 + i 2 3 = 2 ± − 5 + i 2 3 = i ( 2 3 ± 5 ) = e i 2 π ( 2 3 ± 5 ) = i 2 π + ln ( 2 3 ± 5 ) × ( − i ) throughout = 2 π − i ln ( 2 3 ± 5 )
⇒ a + b + c = 3 + 5 + 2 = 1 0