Impossible Square Root

Algebra Level 2

Which of the following is equal to 1 2005 + 2005 2 1 \frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 2005+\sqrt { { 2005 }^{ 2 }-1 } } }

2007 2005 \sqrt { 2007 } -\sqrt { 2005 } 1007 1005 \sqrt { 1007 } -\sqrt { 1005 } 2005 2003 \sqrt { 2005 } -\sqrt { 2003 } 1005 1004 \sqrt { 1005 } -\sqrt { 1004 } 1003 1002 \sqrt { 1003 } -\sqrt { 1002 }

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5 solutions

Kishlaya Jaiswal
Feb 5, 2015

I'll be working out on a general expression that is by taking 2005 = x 2005=x in the given expression.

So, we try to simplify the given expression by rationalizing as follows : 1 x + x 2 1 = 1 x + x 2 1 = 1 x + x 2 1 × x x 2 1 x x 2 1 = x x 2 1 x 2 ( x 2 1 ) = x x 2 1 \begin{aligned} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}} & = & \sqrt{\frac{1}{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{1}{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}\times\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{x^2-(x^2-1)}} \\ & = & \sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}} \\ \end{aligned}

Now, here we try a little bit of manipulation. x x 2 1 = ( x + 1 ) + ( x 1 ) 2 ( x + 1 ) ( x 1 ) \begin{aligned} \sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}} & = & \sqrt{\frac{(x+1)+(x-1)}{2}-\sqrt{(x+1)(x-1)}} \\ \end{aligned}

To simplify the work, I'll be using the following substitutions :

a = x + 1 a = \sqrt{x+1} and b = x 1 b = \sqrt{x-1} .

Now, plugging this into our equation, we get ( x + 1 ) + ( x 1 ) 2 ( x + 1 ) ( x 1 ) = a 2 + b 2 2 a b = a 2 + b 2 2 a b 2 = ( a b ) 2 2 = a b 2 \begin{aligned} \sqrt{\frac{(x+1)+(x-1)}{2}-\sqrt{(x+1)(x-1)}} & = & \sqrt{\frac{a^2+b^2}{2}-ab} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{a^2+b^2-2ab}{2}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{(a-b)^2}{2}} \\ & = & \frac{|a-b|}{\sqrt{2}} \\ \end{aligned}

So, we are done and now after substituting back the values of a , b a,b (also notice that we have a > b a>b ) , we get

a b 2 = x + 1 2 x 1 2 \begin{aligned} \frac{|a-b|}{\sqrt{2}} & = & \sqrt{\frac{x+1}{2}}-\sqrt{\frac{x-1}{2}} \end{aligned}

And thus, 1 x + x 2 1 = x + 1 2 x 1 2 \frac{1}{\sqrt{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}}=\sqrt{\frac{x+1}{2}}-\sqrt{\frac{x-1}{2}}

Substituting x = 2005 x=2005 gives our desired answer 1 2005 + 200 5 2 1 = 1003 1002 \boxed{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2005+\sqrt{2005^2-1}}}=\sqrt{1003}-\sqrt{1002}}

Great dude

Sahil Kamble - 6 years, 4 months ago

Nice solution

jinay patel - 6 years, 4 months ago

can u please exaggerate first step

shweta dalal - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Are you talking about the rationalizing step?

Kishlaya Jaiswal - 6 years, 4 months ago

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ya the last one in rationalization

shweta dalal - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Shweta Dalal ok, I'll try to be more specific.

1 x + x 2 1 = 1 x + x 2 1 = 1 x + x 2 1 × x x 2 1 x x 2 1 \begin{aligned} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}} & = & \sqrt{\frac{1}{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{1}{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}\times\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}} \\ \end{aligned} Here, we make use of : ( a + b ) ( a b ) = a 2 b 2 (a+b)(a-b) = a^2-b^2 . Therefore, with this we can simplify the denominator as = x x 2 1 ( x x 2 1 ) ( x + x 2 1 ) = x x 2 1 x 2 ( x 2 1 ) 2 = x x 2 1 x 2 x 2 + 1 = x x 2 1 \begin{aligned} & = & \sqrt{\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{(x-\sqrt{x^2-1})(x+\sqrt{x^2-1})}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{x^2-(\sqrt{x^2-1})^2}} \\ & = & \sqrt{\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}{x^2-x^2+1}} \\ & = & \sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}} \\ \end{aligned}

Kishlaya Jaiswal - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Kishlaya Jaiswal thanks a lot for clarifying my doubt

shweta dalal - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Shweta Dalal That was all mine pleasure! : ) :)

Kishlaya Jaiswal - 6 years, 3 months ago

1 2005 + 200 5 2 1 = 2005 200 5 2 1 2005 + 200 5 2 1 2005 200 5 2 1 = 2005 200 5 2 1 = 2005 ( 2005 1 ) ( 2005 + 1 ) = 2005 ( 2004 ) ( 2006 ) = ( 1003 ) 2 2 1002 1003 + ( 1002 ) 2 = ( 1003 1002 ) 2 = 1003 1002 \displaystyle \begin{aligned} \frac {1}{\sqrt{2005+\sqrt{2005^2-1}}} & = \frac {\sqrt{2005-\sqrt{2005^2-1}}}{\sqrt{2005+\sqrt{2005^2-1}}\sqrt{2005-\sqrt{2005^2-1}}} \\ & = \sqrt{2005-\sqrt{2005^2-1}} \\ & = \sqrt{2005-\sqrt{(2005-1)(2005+1)}} \\ & = \sqrt{2005-\sqrt{(2004)(2006)}} \\ & = \sqrt{(\sqrt{1003})^2 -2\sqrt{1002} \sqrt{1003} + (\sqrt{1002})^2} \\ & = \sqrt{\left( \sqrt{1003} - \sqrt{1002}\right)^2} \\ & = \boxed {\sqrt{1003} - \sqrt{1002}} \end{aligned}

nice solve, sir

KiXiao Cheng Leong - 6 years, 4 months ago

Simple and nice... Good job sir

Bhupendra Jangir - 6 years, 4 months ago

Let us solve by rationalizing the denominator
1 x + x 2 1 x x 2 1 x x 2 1 = x x 2 1 1 = x ( x + 1 ) ( x 1 ) = { x + 1 2 } 2 + { x 1 2 } 2 2 { x + 1 2 } { x 1 2 } = { x + 1 2 x 1 2 } 2 = x + 1 2 x 1 2 \displaystyle \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}}* \dfrac{\sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}}{\sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}}=\dfrac{\sqrt{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}}{\sqrt1}\\=\sqrt{x-\sqrt{(x+1)(x-1)}} \\=\sqrt{ \{\sqrt{ \dfrac{x+1}{2} }\}^2 +\{\sqrt{ \dfrac{x-1}{2} }\}^2 -2*\{\sqrt{ \dfrac{x+1}{2} }\}*\{\sqrt{ \dfrac{x-1}{2} }\}}\\= \sqrt{ \{ \sqrt{ {\dfrac{x+1}{2} }}-\sqrt{ \dfrac{x-1}{2} } }\}^2\\= \large \sqrt{ {\dfrac{x+1}{2} }}-\sqrt{ \dfrac{x-1}{2} }
I f x = 2005 , 2005 + 1 2 2005 1 2 = 1003 1002 If~x= 2005,~~\sqrt{\dfrac {2005+ 1 }{2}} -\sqrt { \dfrac{ 2005-1 }{ 2 } } \\= \sqrt{ 1003}-\sqrt{1002 }

Suk Kang
Feb 7, 2015

Heads up: my solution is just how I prefer to solve this problem... there are other thorough solutions below. Let's tackle the denominator as is. Since all of the answer choices are a difference between two radical expressions, we know that the denominator will most likely factor to a sum of radical expressions. Let's let the larger of these radical expressions equal \sqrt{a} and the smaller one equal \sqrt{b} . Now, we can set an equation: \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{2005 + \sqrt{2005^2 - 1}} We can continue by squaring both sides: a + b + 2 \sqrt{ab} = 2005 + \sqrt{2005^2 - 1} From this equation, we can infer that a + b = 2005 and 2\sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{2005^2 - 1} (Remember that the radicands of the answer choices are all integers.) Now, we tackle 2\sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{2005^2 - 1}. Squaring both sides yields 4ab = 2005^2 - 1 = (2004)(2006) ( Difference of squares expansion ) We find that ab = (2006)(501). By inspection, we can see that a = 1003 and b = 1002 solve our system of equations. YOU'RE ALMOST THERE! Now, we have \frac{1}{\sqrt{1003} + \sqrt{1002}}. Rationalizing the denominator, we get \boxed{\sqrt{1003} - sqrt{1002}} :D

Nice approach & solution but no use of latex makes it difficult to understand.

But N i c e Nice s o l n sol^{n}

P.S. well i am also trying to learn l a t e x latex

Ashwin Upadhyay - 6 years, 2 months ago

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