Induced charge!

A point charge q q is held at a distance d d above an infinite grounded conducting plane . A certain amount of charge is induced on the grounded conductor due to the presence of the point charge . Considering the grounded conductor to be in the x y x-y plane and the point charge q at ( 0 , 0 , d ) ( 0,0, d) , evaluate the surface charge density σ ( x , y ) \sigma (x,y) induced on the conducting plane . Enter the answer as the value (with sign) of ( σ ( 3 , 4 ) × 1 0 3 ) ( \sigma ( 3,4 ) × 10^3 ) in C / m 2 C/m^2

Details and assumptions :

d = 5 m d = 5 m

q = 1 C q = 1 C


The answer is -2.25079.

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1 solution

Sumanth R Hegde
Mar 7, 2017

The problem can be evaluated using the method of electric images . Consider a completely different charge distribution than our given system : A system of two point chargee q q and q -q placed at ( 0 , 0 , d ) ( 0,0, d) and ( 0 , 0 , d ) ( 0,0, -d ) . Notice that this system satisfies the conditions for the potential in the previous system , that is ,

  • Potential at all points in the x-y plane is zero

  • Potential V 0 V \rightarrow 0 when x 2 + y 2 + z 2 d 2 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \ggg d^2

  • The only charge in the region z 0 z \geq 0 is point charge q (Note that here we are interested only in the region z 0 z \geq 0 and not the entire space because there is a point charge -q in the region z 0 z \leq 0 which was not there in our given system )

This system has the same boundary conditions on potential as that of the given system, But does this mean that the given system is exactly the same ( that is , has the same solution for V ( x , y , z ) V(x ,y,z ) ) as this system ?? Yes! This is guaranteed by the uniqueness theorem .

Now, evaluating the surface charge density is pretty straight forward:

Electric field near the surface of the conductor is E = σ ϵ z ^ E = \dfrac { \sigma }{ \epsilon } \hat{z}

Thus the charge density would be σ = ϵ d V d z a t z = 0 \sigma = - \epsilon \dfrac{ dV }{ dz} at~ z= 0 . Evaluate potential V ( x , y , z ) V(x, y, z) using the " trick " and hence evaluate σ \sigma . We get

σ ( x , y ) = q d 2 π ( x 2 + y 2 + z 2 ) 3 2 \sigma (x ,y ) = \dfrac{ - qd }{ 2 \pi ( x^2 + y^2 + z^2 )^{ \frac{3}{2} } }

Thus σ ( 3 , 4 ) = 2.25079 × 1 0 3 C m 2 \color{#3D99F6}{ \sigma ( 3,4 ) = - 2.25079 × 10^{-3} ~C m^{-2}}

Yes! It indeed is very straight forward!

Hard work in writing well explaned solution upvoted!

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years, 3 months ago

( link try to do this problem please and post its solution.

Sudhamsh Suraj - 4 years, 3 months ago

Yeah did the same.

Method of images is explained very beautifully in Feynman's lectures.

Harsh Shrivastava - 4 years, 2 months ago

Can we do this? Component of electric field due to q along -z axis inside the conductor must equal field due to charge induced at that point on the surface of the conductor. This ensures that the Field inside the conductor is 0.

Kushagra Sahni - 4 years ago

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No , that doesn't ensure net E=0 , for net E=0 , electric field at any point inside conductor due to charge is equal to the net field at that point due to the surface charge .

If you take only vertical field then you are not taking component of field of the rest charge along vertical direction which also matters!

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years ago

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I mean that we need to calculate charge density on only a particular point (x,y). So only there in that small area I am doing the net field 0 to get charge density only there.

Kushagra Sahni - 4 years ago

I am taking component of electric field perpendicular to the sheet by charge q because the component of field parallel to the plate will not have any effect inside the plate.

Kushagra Sahni - 4 years ago

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@Kushagra Sahni Buddy If u are saying the same what I feel then u won't get the answer , but If you want to say something else then you might be getting answer .

Are u getting answer ?

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years ago

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@Aniket Sanghi Yes Bro I am getting answer. But I just wanted to confirm correctness of that method. Method of images is of course brilliant but in a way I also did that but I am not able to explain properply.

Kushagra Sahni - 4 years ago

@Kushagra Sahni Hey I got u , you actually did the same thing as we , you are seeing it inside conductor and we outside . But the logic you are using is wrong .

As we can find the E by conductor at point just above surface , but not inside directly in form of formula ,

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years ago

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