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Algebra Level 5

If the polynomial f ( x ) = 4 x 4 a . x 3 + b . x 2 c . x + 5 f(x)=4x^4-a.x^3+b.x^2-c.x+5 where a , b , c R a,b,c \in \mathbb{R} has 4 4 positive real zeroes(roots) say r 1 , r 2 , r 3 , a n d r 4 r_1,r_2,r_3, \ and \ r_4 , such that r 1 2 + r 2 4 + r 3 5 + r 4 8 = 1 \frac{r_1}{2}+\frac{r_2}{4}+\frac{r_3}{5}+\frac{r_4}{8}=1 Find the value of a a .


The answer is 19.000.

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1 solution

Chew-Seong Cheong
Feb 15, 2015

Since r 1 r_1 , r 2 r_2 , r 3 r_3 and r 4 r_4 are positive by AM-GM inequality, we have:

r 1 2 + r 2 4 + r 3 5 + r 4 8 4 r 1 2 ˙ r 2 4 ˙ r 3 5 ˙ r 4 8 4 \quad \dfrac {r_1}{2} + \dfrac {r_2}{4} + \dfrac {r_3}{5} + \dfrac {r_4}{8} \ge 4 \sqrt [4] {\dfrac {r_1}{2} \dot{} \dfrac {r_2}{4} \dot{} \dfrac {r_3}{5} \dot{} \dfrac {r_4}{8}}

And by Vieta formulas, we have: r 1 r 2 r 3 r 4 = 5 4 \space r_1r_2r_3r_4 = \dfrac {5}{4}

r 1 2 + r 2 4 + r 3 5 + r 4 8 4 1 2 ˙ 4 ˙ 5 ˙ 8 ˙ 5 4 4 = 1 \quad \Rightarrow \dfrac {r_1}{2} + \dfrac {r_2}{4} + \dfrac {r_3}{5} + \dfrac {r_4}{8} \ge 4 \sqrt [4] {\dfrac {1}{2 \dot{} 4 \dot{} 5 \dot{} 8} \dot{} \dfrac {5}{4}} = 1

This means that equality happens, therefore,

r 1 2 = r 2 4 = r 3 5 = r 4 8 = 1 4 \quad \Rightarrow \dfrac {r_1}{2} = \dfrac {r_2}{4} = \dfrac {r_3}{5} = \dfrac {r_4}{8} = \dfrac {1}{4}

By Vieta formulas again, we have:

a 4 = r 1 + r 2 + r 3 + r 4 = 2 4 + 4 4 + 5 4 + 8 4 a = 2 + 4 + 5 + 8 = 19 \begin{aligned} \quad \Rightarrow \dfrac {a}{4} & = r_1+r_2+r_3+r_4 \\ & = \dfrac {2}{4} + \dfrac {4}{4} + \dfrac {5}{4} + \dfrac {8}{4} \\ \Rightarrow a & = 2 + 4 + 5 + 8 = \boxed{19} \end{aligned}

i am curious to know if this could be solved without using Vieta formulas.......it would be fun to give it a try.......

Arnav Das - 6 years ago

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You may explore. But I think you will still have to use the fact that the product of roots is 5 4 \frac{5}{4} because there is no other number to use.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years ago

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yeah dats inescapable......yeah no new number to use........

Arnav Das - 6 years ago

the absolute one. thanks for posting the solution. @Chew-Seong Cheong

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 3 months ago

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If the roots were not positive , I mean if 2 of them positive and other 2 negative or all of them negative , then can we find the value of a?

U Z - 6 years, 3 months ago

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I believe, in that case, we will get a set of solutions for a a and not a unique one.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Can you give a hint how would we proceed? If the same condition about the sum of the roots is given.

U Z - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@U Z Sorry, I used the wrong words. I shouldn't say "will get", but that there is no unique solutions. With only 2 equations but 4 unknowns there can be infinite sets of solutions.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Yes sir right

U Z - 6 years, 3 months ago

I got 300 points for this question sir, ¨ \ddot\smile

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 3 months ago

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:). Great. Keep your efforts on.

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 3 months ago

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