Integral of an Unknown Function

Calculus Level 3

Let f ( x ) f(x) be a real-valued function continuous on [ 0 , 2 ] \left[0,2\right] such that f ( x ) = f ( 2 x ) f(x)=f(2x) for all x x . If

0 1 f ( x ) d x = 100 , \int_0^1 f(x) dx = 100,

then what is the value of

0 2 f ( x ) d x ? \int_0^2 f(x)dx ?


The answer is 200.

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13 solutions

Avineil Jain
May 8, 2014

Let I = 0 2 f ( x ) d x I =\displaystyle\int_{0}^{2}f(x) dx

Let x = 2 t x = 2t implies d x = 2 d t dx = 2dt

Changing the limits and substituting,

I = 2 0 1 f ( 2 t ) d t I = 2 \displaystyle\int_{0}^{1}f(2t) dt

Since f ( t ) = f ( 2 t ) , f(t) = f(2t),

I = 2 0 1 f ( t ) d t I = 2 \displaystyle\int_{0}^{1}f(t) dt

Therefore,

I = 200 I = 200

@Logan Dymond , Does such a function exist? I mean, Can f(x) = f(2x) for all x for any function?

Avineil Jain - 7 years, 1 month ago

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any constant function will satisfy f(x)=f(2x)

ashutosh kumar - 7 years, 1 month ago

Sure. For any function g ( x ) g(x) defined on [ 1 , 2 ] [1,2] and continuous on [ 1 , 2 ) [1,2) with g ( 1 ) = g ( 2 ) = a g(1)=g(2)=a , define piece-wise f ( x ) f(x) by f ( x ) = { a : x = 0 g ( 2 n x ) : 2 n x < 2 n + 1 , n Z f(x) = \left\{ \begin{array}{lr} a & : x = 0\\ g(2^{-n}x) & : 2^n \leq x < 2^{n+1}, n \in \mathbb{Z} \end{array} \right.

I also edited the problem to read "continuous on ( 0 , 2 ) (0,2) " rather than "continuous (on the real line)" as the only such functions continuous on the whole real line would be constant. The new wording allows for far more interesting functions

Logan Dymond - 7 years, 1 month ago

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How would you show that the only function which is continuous on the real line which satisfies your condition is the constant function?

That is an interesting question in itself, especially since many people would not have thought of the examples.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Calvin Lin We'd have to consider the definition of continuity. Since the function is non constant, it would somewhere attain a value different than its value at 0 0 , and by the special property of this function, we can show that the function attains this fixed value arbitrarily close to 0 0 , showing it cannot be continuous at 0 0 .

Logan Dymond - 7 years, 1 month ago

The only such function i can think of should be constant.....f(x)=100

Aabhas Mathur - 7 years, 1 month ago

Yes. Any constant satisfies this

Miggy Mercado - 7 years, 1 month ago

Yes! example of such function is 1) f(x) = 3

Maithresh Pmr - 7 years, 1 month ago

f(x)=sin(x)/x

Badr Eddine Chane - 7 years, 1 month ago

Why can you change the limit of the integral from [0, 2] to [0, 1] after you plug in dx = 2dt?

Messy Tiger - 6 years, 7 months ago

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using x=2t when x=0; t=0 when x=2; t=1

Shailaja Ramesh - 3 years, 7 months ago

that satisfied answer

Mahmoud Hassona - 7 years, 1 month ago

THE SAME SOLUTION AS AVINEIL JAIN

aliki patsalidou - 7 years ago
Aditya Sriram
May 8, 2014

I figured the only way f(x) and be equal to f(2x) is if it was a straight line parallel to the x-axis. Thus when you double the limit, you double the value.

I figured it out the same way.

Milo Štěpán - 7 years, 1 month ago

consider a thin rectangular strip from x=a to x=a+da where a belongs to [0,1].then we can find a strip of same area for x=2a to x=2a+da because f(x)=f(2x). so we can conclude that stretching the limit to double the original length doubles the integral value.

Reecha Sinha - 7 years ago

I did the same thing

Leonard Necula - 2 years, 11 months ago

The constraint "such that f(x) = f(2x) for all x" is a dead giveaway and makes solving the integral trivial, but I don't see how this is a relevant "try it yourself" exercise pertinent to the example and identity above. It's not analogous.

Bernd Rillant - 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Nam Diện Lĩnh
May 23, 2014

We can infer that f ( x ) = f ( x 2 ) x f(x)=f(\frac{x}{2})\forall x and therefor f ( x ) = f ( x 2 n ) f(x)=f(\frac{x}{2^n}) for all integer n 1 n\ge 1 . Because of that, lim x 0 f ( x ) \lim_{x\to 0}f(x) must exists and we call that limit L L . For all x , y x, y , we have f ( x ) f ( y ) = f ( x 2 n ) f ( y 2 n ) = L L = 0 f(x)-f(y)=f(\frac{x}{2^n})-f(\frac{y}{2^n})=L-L=0 . So f ( x ) = L x f(x)=L\forall x . Using the integral condition, we know L = 100 L=100 and can easily calculate the later integral

Eduardo Arrieta
Sep 10, 2019

We know that k a k b f ( x k ) d x = k a b f ( x ) d x \int_{ka}^{kb}f(\frac{x}{k})dx = k\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx from properties of integral. We would like this 0 2 f ( x ) d x = 0 2 f ( x 2 ) d x \begin{aligned}\int_{0}^{2}f(x)dx = \int_{0}^{2}f(\frac{x}{2})dx \end{aligned} to hold. Taking into account that f ( x ) = f ( 2 x ) , x f(x) = f(2x), \forall x , we can proce that f ( x ) = f ( x 2 ) f(x) = f(\frac{x}{2}) as follows

f ( x ) = f ( x 2 ) f ( 4 ( x 4 ) ) = f ( 2 ( x 4 ) ) f ( 4 t ) = f ( 2 t ) ; t = x 4 f ( 2 ( 2 t ) ) = f ( 2 t ) f ( 2 k ) = f ( k ) ; k = 2 t \\ \\ \begin{aligned} f(x) &= f(\frac{x}{2}) \\ f(4(\frac{x}{4})) &= f(2(\frac{x}{4})) \\ f(4t) &= f(2t); & t = \frac{x}{4} \\ f(2(2t)) &= f(2t) \\ f(2k) &= f(k); & k =2t \end{aligned}

Therefore, we can claim that 0 ( 2 ) 1 ( 2 ) f ( x 2 ) d x = 0 2 f ( x ) d x = 2 0 1 f ( x ) d x = 2 ( 100 ) = 200 \begin{aligned}\int_{0(2)}^{1(2)}f(\frac{x}{2})dx = \int_{0}^{2}f(x)dx = 2\int_{0}^{1}f(x)dx = 2(100) = 200 \end{aligned}

John Smith
Aug 29, 2019

Can we solve it using reflection property of integration?

Raf San
Jul 30, 2019

Integration of f(x) from 0 to 1 represents a area and integration of the same function from 1to 2 reprents the same area as calculated before... As the graph is parallel to x axis... integration of f(x) from 0 to 2 will simply 2 times of the area we calculated at the first time... That is given 100 So the and is 200

Jehad Aly
Jun 4, 2019

Let F ( x ) F(x) be the antiderivative of f ( x ) f(x) :

0 1 f ( x ) d x = F ( 1 ) F ( 0 ) \int^1_0{f(x)}dx = F(1)-F(0)

Okay, since f ( x ) = f ( 2 x ) f(x) = f(2x) , 0 1 f ( x ) d x = 0 1 f ( 2 x ) d x \int^1_0{f(x)}dx = \int^1_0{f(2x)}dx .

Multiplying by 2 2 \frac{2}{2} : 0 1 f ( x ) d x = 0 1 f ( 2 x ) d x = 1 2 0 1 f ( 2 x ) d ( 2 x ) = 1 2 ( F ( 2 ) F ( 0 ) ) = 100 \int^1_0{f(x)}dx = \int^1_0{f(2x)}dx = \frac{1}{2}\int^1_0{f(2x)}d(2x) =\frac{1}{2}(F(2)-F(0)) =100

Solving this equation gives the answer, 200.

Jerry Christensen
Feb 11, 2019

This would be a horizontal line. Therefore, double the upper limits means double the integral value

Jam M
Nov 18, 2018

Since f ( x ) = f ( 2 x ) x R f(x) = f(2x) \; \forall x \in \mathbb{R} , it follows that f ( x ) = f ( x 2 n ) x R n N f(x) = f\left(\dfrac{x}{2^n}\right) \; \forall x \in \mathbb{R} \; \forall n \in \mathbb{N}

By continuity, f ( x ) = lim n f ( x ) = lim n f ( x 2 n ) = f ( lim n x 2 n ) = f ( 0 ) f(x) = \displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty} f(x)} = \displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty} f\left(\dfrac{x}{2^n}\right)} = f\left(\displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty}\dfrac{x}{2^n}}\right) = f(0)

So f ( x ) f(x) is a constant function, and

0 2 f ( x ) d x = 2 0 1 f ( x ) d x = 2 ( 100 ) = 200 \displaystyle{\int_0^2 f(x) \,dx} = 2\displaystyle{\int_0^1 f(x) \,dx} = 2(100) = 200

Elena Lopez
Jul 16, 2015

If f(x)=f(2x) then for all x values, there will be the same y value, hence a horizontal or y=c line parallel to the x axis, where c is a number. For example if x=1, f(1)=f(2), if x=2, f(2)=f(4), if x=3, f(3)=f(6) and so on. This improper integral from 0 to 1 (since the function is not defined at 0) can still be interpreted as the area from the horizontal line to the x axis from a value a approaching 0 to 1, which is 100 (kind of like a rectangular area, if you will). Going an extra unit to the right is the same as doubling the area from 0 to 1.

Henrique Coelho
May 26, 2014

You can just visualize it. If f(x) = f(2x), then f(0,001) = f(0,002) = f(0,004) = ... = f(2). Hence, it is a line segment parallel to the x-axis. The area under the curve from 1 to 2 has the same magnitude of the area from 0 to 1. So it is 2 times 100 = 200.

@Swapnil Tolia The suppositions that this function is continuous on [0,2] and that f(x) = f(2x) for all x mean that f does in fact have to be a constant function; i.e a straight line.

Daniel Juncos - 4 years, 6 months ago

Doesnt need to be a straight line, can be a curve

Swapnil Tolia - 7 years ago
Aman Abbas
May 25, 2014

the solution is simple integration with constant term

Saket Rathi
May 10, 2014

Let f(x) equals 100,replace it in both the equation and get the answer.

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