Intelligent Bloodthirsty Pirates

Logic Level 2

Five pirates of different ages found a treasure chest with 100 gold coins. In the middle of the ocean, with no land in sight, they decide to split the coins using this scheme:

The oldest pirate proposes how to share the coins, and ALL pirates (including the oldest) vote for or against it. If 50% or more of the pirates vote for it, then the coins will be shared that way. Otherwise, the pirate proposing the scheme will be thrown overboard, and the process is repeated with the pirates that remain.
The pirates are a bloodthirsty bunch with no loyalty. If a pirate would get the same number of coins if he voted for or against a proposal, he will vote against to watch the proposer be thrown overboard.

Assuming that the pirates are intelligent, rational, greedy, and do not wish to be thrown overboard, (and are rather good at math for pirates) what should the oldest pirate propose?

10 :15 : 20 : 25 : 30 98 : 0 : 1 : 0 : 1 0 : 25 :25 :25 :25 20 : 20 : 20 : 20 : 20

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1 solution

Kunal Mandil
Jun 8, 2014

The oldest pirate will propose a 98 : 0 : 1 : 0 : 1 split, in other words the oldest pirate gets 98 coins, the middle pirate gets 1 coin and the youngest gets 1 coin.

Let us name the pirates (from oldest to youngest): Alex, Billy, Colin, Duncan and Eddie.

Working backwards:

2 Pirates: Duncan splits the coins 100 : 0 (giving himself all the gold). His vote (50%) is enough to ensure the deal.

3 Pirates: Colin splits the coins 99 : 0 : 1. Eddie will accept this deal (getting just 1 coin), because he knows that if he rejects the deal there will be only two pirates left, and he gets nothing.

4 Pirates: Billy splits the coins 99 : 0 : 1 : 0. By the same reasoning as before, Duncan will support this deal. Billy would not waste a spare coin on Colin, because Colin knows that if he rejects the proposal, he will pocket 99 coins once Billy is thrown overboard. Billy would also not give a coin to Eddie, because Eddie knows that if he rejects the proposal, he will receive a coin from Colin in the next round anyway.

5 Pirates: Alex splits the coins 98 : 0 : 1 : 0 : 1. By offering a gold coin to Colin (who would otherwise get nothing) he is assured of a deal.

(Note: In the final deal Alex would not give a coin to Billy, who knows he can pocket 99 coins if he votes against Alex's proposal and Alex goes overboard. Likewise, Alex would not give a coin to Duncan, because Duncan knows that if he votes against the proposal, Alex will be voted overboard and Billy will propose to offer Duncan the same single coin as Alex. All else equal, Duncan would rather see Alex go overboard and collect his one coin from Billy.)

Makes perfect sense now. Good job Kunal.

Filip Leszczynski - 6 years, 1 month ago

The catch of the problem is 'back calculation'

Poonayu Sharma - 7 years ago

That is really well presented.!!! Upvote from my side!!!

Tanya Gupta - 7 years ago

Your solution was copy-pasted from http://www.mathsisfun.com/puzzles/5-pirates-solution.html ...

Kevin Li - 6 years ago

it is wrong! The pirates are a bloodthirsty bunch with no loyalty. If a pirate would get the same number of coins if he voted for or against a proposal, he will vote against to watch the proposer be thrown overboard. the answer must be 97; 0; 2; 0. 1

Plinio Bernardi Jr - 4 years, 3 months ago

didn't get the solution well..help please

Sanket Gaikwad - 6 years, 11 months ago

It seems absurd that the youngest pirates would "agree" to this scheme if they were rational since they know the outcome would be 98 : 0 : 1 : 0 : 1. Rational pirates would have come up with a 20 : 20 : 20 : 20 : 20 or some random scheme with this as the expected value.

Adam Buck - 6 years, 11 months ago

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You forget that these pirates are all greedy.

Joshua Moore - 5 years, 11 months ago

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But I think you also forget that they greediness will also not let the others get so many gold alone. I understand the method explain above, but I think it will end up the oldest being thrown overboard, because the other will not let him get so many gold alone.

Rudy Raito - 5 years, 8 months ago

You don't know how to write a question. Your language is misleading.

Kashish Goyal - 7 years ago

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That's the perfect puzzle which points to the opp. way and increases its level further

Nilesh Chouhan - 6 years, 1 month ago

@Kashish Goyal what is the problem in the language may i know plzz..?

Kunal Mandil - 7 years ago

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I don't think anything's wrong

Ritu Roy - 7 years ago

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@Ritu Roy @Ritu Roy yaa even i also don't think anything's wrong

Kunal Mandil - 6 years, 12 months ago

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