Intersection points on circle, part 2

Geometry Level 5

The parabola f ( x ) = x 2 f(x)=x^2 intersects the graph of g ( x ) = x 4 + a x 3 2 x 2 + b x + 1 g(x) = x^4 + ax^3 -2x^2+ bx +1 at four distinct points. These four points on a same circle of area 10. Given that b > 0 b>0 , find the value of 1000 b \lfloor{1000b}\rfloor .


This problem is part of Curves... cut or touch?


The answer is 855.

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1 solution

Chan Lye Lee
Nov 13, 2015

Suppose the equation of the circle is ( x h ) 2 + ( y k ) 2 = r 2 \displaystyle (x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2 .

Since the circle's area is 10 and it intersects with the graph f ( x ) = x 2 f(x)=x^2 , the above equation can be rewritten as ( x h ) 2 + ( x 2 k ) 2 = 10 π \displaystyle(x-h)^2+(x^2-k)^2=\frac{10}{\pi} . Expand it and we get x 4 ( 2 q 1 ) x 2 2 p x + ( p 2 + q 2 10 π ) = 0 x^4-(2q-1)x^2-2px+\left(p^2+q^2-\frac{10}{\pi}\right)=0

Compare the above equation with g ( x ) f ( x ) \displaystyle g(x)-f(x) , we obtain

2 q 1 = 3 2 p = b p 2 + q 2 10 π = 1 \begin{aligned} 2q-1 &=& 3\\ -2p&=& b \\ p^2+q^2-\frac{10}{\pi} &=&1\\ \end{aligned}

From the first equation, q = 2 \displaystyle q=2 ; from the last equation, p = ± 10 π 3 \displaystyle p=\pm \sqrt{\frac{10}{\pi}-3} ; finally from the second equation, b = 2 10 π 3 0.855801 \displaystyle b=2\sqrt{\frac{10}{\pi}-3}\approx 0.855801 (as b > 0 ) b>0) . So 1000 b = 855 \displaystyle\lfloor{1000b}\rfloor = 855 .

This is the solution that I had come up with however due to some silly mistakes in evaluating 2 2 2^2 as 16 16 I got some wacky answers. This is the most elegant way to solve this problem. +1.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

The coefficient of x 2 x^2 in x 4 + a x 3 2 x 2 + b x + 1 x^4 + ax^3 - 2x^2 + bx + 1 is 2 -2 , so 2 q 1 = 2 2q - 1 = 2 .

Jon Haussmann - 5 years, 7 months ago

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We are comparing with coefficients in f g f-g , not g g .

Chan Lye Lee - 5 years, 7 months ago

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You're right, my mistake. :P

Jon Haussmann - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Jon Haussmann It's ok...

Chan Lye Lee - 5 years, 7 months ago

Could you explain why does that comparing with f-g work?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

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