Introductory Olympiad Algebra - The Square Is Now Complete

Algebra Level 3

As ( x , y ) (x,y) ranges over all pairs of real values, what is the smallest value of

( 2 x 3 y 4 ) 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 ? (2x-3y-4)^2 + (2x-3y+10)^2 ?


The answer is 98.

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13 solutions

Calvin Lin Staff
May 7, 2014

Set z = 2 x 3 y z = 2x-3y , we want to find the minimum of ( z 4 ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 = 2 z 2 + 12 z + 116 (z-4)^2 + (z+10)^2 = 2z^2 + 12 z + 116 . The minimum occurs at the vertex of the parabola, which is z = 12 2 × 2 = 3 z = - \frac{ 12}{2 \times 2 } = -3 . Hence the minimum is ( 3 4 ) 2 + ( 3 + 10 ) 2 = 98 (-3-4)^2 + (-3+10)^2 = 98 .

You could also tackle this through Cauchy-Schwarz: once again set z = 2 x 3 y z=2x-3y , and note that 2 [ ( z 4 ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 ] = 2 [ ( 4 z ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 ] [ 4 z + z + 10 ] 2 = 196 , 2[(z-4)^2+(z+10)^2]=2[(4-z)^2+(z+10)^2]\geq[4-z+z+10]^2=196, implying that ( z 4 ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 98 (z-4)^2+(z+10)^2\geq 98 .

David Altizio - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Of course, there are many methods of proving that the minimum is 98.

Do you know how to use AM-GM on this question? You have to be careful with the application, since AM-GM (mostly) applies only to non-negative values.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Let z = 2 x 3 y z = 2x-3y as it was.

14 = ( 4 z ) + ( z + 10 ) 2 ( 4 z ) ( z + 10 ) 14 = (4-z)+(z+10) \geq 2\sqrt{(4-z)(z+10)}

( 4 z ) ( z + 10 ) 49 (4-z)(z+10) \leq 49

196 = ( ( 4 z ) + ( z + 10 ) ) 2 = ( 4 z ) 2 + 2 ( 4 z ) ( z + 10 ) + ( z + 10 ) 2 196 = ((4-z)+(z+10))^{2} = (4-z)^{2}+2(4-z)(z+10)+(z+10)^{2}

( 4 z ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 = 196 2 ( 4 z ) ( z + 10 ) 196 2 ( 49 ) = 98 (4-z)^{2} + (z+10)^{2} = 196 - 2(4-z)(z+10) \geq 196 - 2(49) = \boxed{98} ~~~

Samuraiwarm Tsunayoshi - 6 years, 10 months ago

without using any results , differentiation or parabola properties : convert ( z 4 ) 2 + ( z + 10 ) 2 (z-4)^{2} + (z+10)^{2} to ( a k ) 2 + ( a + k ) 2 ( a-k)^{2} + (a+k)^{2} where a is variable and k is constant and which is equal to 2 a 2 + 2 k 2 2a^{2} + 2k^{2} and thus minimum value would be at a=0

the given eq can be written as ( a 7 ) 2 + ( a + 7 ) 2 (a-7)^{2} + (a+7)^{2} where a = z+3 thus minimum value is 2 7 2 = 98 2*7^{2} = 98

Piyush Yadav - 7 years, 1 month ago

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I also calculate this question like you did here but do not know what theories support my calculation. Please help explain more about "differentiation or parabola properties". Thank you in advance.

Bhornpan Pipatpongkul - 5 years, 6 months ago

Exactly. I solved in an identical way by realizing that you could set 2 x 3 y 2x-3y equal to some variable. Why is this not letting me say just "Exactly"? It's giving me a message saying "Please provide a more complete explanation of your question or response before submitting a reply. Thanks!". :O

Finn Hulse - 7 years, 1 month ago

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To avoid comments/solutions where people simply post the answer, we've added a minimum limit of 10 characters.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

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WHAT? That means no more of my beautiful, one sentence solutions... *tear. ;|

Finn Hulse - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Finn Hulse Don't over-react.

Anuj Shikarkhane - 6 years, 9 months ago

"The answer is blablabla ." takes more than 15 characters. =__="

Samuraiwarm Tsunayoshi - 6 years, 10 months ago

I thought it would also be important to note that 2x-3y is a straight (non horizontal) line meaning it has an all encompassing range and thus we know that z can be any value. Had z been a more complex function with an incomplete range, this may not have worked out right?

Andy Shue - 5 years, 11 months ago

Guuhhhh! i got the -3 and substituted it back in the quadratic and ended up with 116!! T.T

Sai Swetha KV - 7 years, 1 month ago

thanks man. absolutely correct

Utsav Akarshan - 7 years, 1 month ago
Boris Barron
Aug 23, 2014

( 2 x 3 y 4 ) 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 = ( 2 x 3 y + 10 14 ) 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 = ( 2 x 3 y + 10 14 ) ( 2 x 3 y + 10 14 ) + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 = ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) ( 2 x 3 y + 10 14 ) 14 ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) + 1 4 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 = ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 28 ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) + 1 4 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 = 2 ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 28 ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) + 196 l e t A = 2 x 3 y + 10 f ( A ) = 2 A 2 28 A + 196 d f ( A ) d A = 4 A 28 = 0 A = 7 f ( 7 ) = 2 ( 7 ) 2 28 ( 7 ) + 196 = 98 (2x-3y-4)^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\\ =\quad (2x-3y+10-14)^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\\ =\quad (2x-3y+10-14)(2x-3y+10-14)\quad +\quad (2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\\ =\quad (2x-3y+10)(2x-3y+10-14)\quad -14(2x-3y+10)\quad +\quad 14^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\\ =\quad (2x-3y+10)(2x-3y+10)\quad -\quad 28(2x-3y+10)\quad +\quad 14^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\\ =\quad 2(2x-3y+10)^{ 2 }\quad -\quad 28(2x-3y+10)\quad +\quad 196\\ let\quad A\quad =\quad 2x-3y+10\\ f(A)\quad =\quad 2A^{ 2 }\quad -\quad 28A\quad +\quad 196\\ \cfrac { df(A)\quad }{ dA } \quad =\quad 4A\quad -\quad 28\quad =\quad 0\\ A\quad =\quad 7\\ f(7)\quad =\quad 2(7)^{ 2 }\quad -\quad 28(7)\quad +\quad 196\quad =\quad 98

Diksha Mishra
May 9, 2014

USING STRAIGHT LINE CONCEPT : see the two equations as the equations of straight lines and then any point lying on the perpendicular joining them would have min. distance (since both given lines are parallel) and then randomly take any line perpendicular to both of them and then using the relation btw x and y using that equation substitute in the given relation .........in question after then apply max min concept

Interesting solution 🤔

Rohan Joshi - 3 months ago
Nayan Pathak
May 9, 2014

take 2x-3y=k and replace it inthe exp,now maxima minima

Harikesh Yadav
May 8, 2014

let z=2x-3y and solve it using maxima and minima techinque or using properties of parabola

Les Schumer
Mar 8, 2019

Set z = 2 x 3 y + 3 z = 2x - 3y + 3 , we want to find the minimum of ( z 7 ) 2 + ( z + 7 ) 2 = 2 ( z 2 + 49 ) (z-7)^2 + (z+7)^2 = 2(z^2 + 49)

The minimum occurs at 2 x 49 = 98 when z 2 = ( 2 x 3 y + 3 ) 2 = 0 z^2 = (2x - 3y + 3)^2 = 0

Majed Kalaoun
Jun 18, 2017

Let p = 2 x 3 y p=2x-3y and let the whole expression be equal to y y Then,

( p 4 ) 2 + ( p + 10 ) 2 = y (p-4)^2+(p+10)^2=y

p 2 8 p + 16 + p 2 + 20 p + 100 = y p^2-8p+16+p^2+20p+100=y

2 p 2 + 12 p + 116 = y 2p^2+12p+116=y

2 ( p 2 + 6 p + 58 ) = y 2(p^2+6p+58)=y

2 ( p 2 + 6 p ) = y 116 2(p^2+6p)=y-116

2 ( p 2 + 6 p + 9 ) = y 98 2(p^2+6p+9)=y-98

2 ( p + 3 ) 2 + 98 = y 2(p+3)^2+98=y

We could make ( p + 3 ) 2 = 0 (p+3)^2=0

Then y = 0 + 98 y=0+98

y = 98 y=98

Therefore, the minimum value of the expression ( 2 x 3 y 4 ) 2 + ( 2 x 3 y + 10 ) 2 (2x-3y-4)^2+(2x-3y+10)^2 is 98 98

Jayesh Swami
Nov 3, 2015

Let z= 2x -3y Substituting z in the given equation we get (z-4)^2 +(z+10)^2 → 2z^2 +12z + 116→ 2(z^2 +6z +9) + 98→ 2(z+3)^2 + 98

The minimum value is obtained when z = -3 so that the square part become zero as it cannot be negative for real value of z So min value is 98...

Huân Lê Quang
Jul 9, 2015

Set 2x-3y = n, so: (n-4)^2 + (n+10)^2 = 2n^2+12n+116. Because the a-coefficent is positive, so the minimum occurs at the vertex, which is n = (-b)/2a = (-12)/4 = -3. Plug this into the quadratic equation above, we get the value of 98. So the minimum of (2x-3y-4)^2 +(2x-3y+10)^2 is 98.

Eric Escober
Apr 4, 2015

My solution is kinda weird. I'll just post it up for comments.

So first I started out getting the expanded form of the expression.

8 x 2 + 24 x 24 x y 36 y + 18 y 2 + 116 8x^2+24x-24xy-36y+18y^2+116

Next, I formed two quadratic expressions

[ 1 ] [1] : 8 ( x + 3 2 ) 2 18 8(x+\frac{3}{2})^2-18

[ 2 ] [2] : 18 ( y 1 ) 2 18 18(y-1)^2-18

Leaving out a remaining [ 3 ] [3] : 24 x y + 80 -24xy + 80 .

Then I got the minimum values of [ 1 ] [1] and [ 2 ] [2] , which are at x = 3 2 x=-\frac{3}{2} and y = 1 y=1 , respectively.

But [ 3 ] [3] would give a high positive value if x x and y y have different signs so I let x = 0 x=0 and with a help of a calculator I got an answer of 98 98 .

Just found out, too, that the same happens if I let y = 0 y=0 .

Any comment would help, since it got me to the right answer I thought this approach has any use in itself. If it has not, then this technique goes to the trash bin.

You need to clearly explain when the minimum occurs. For example, if x , y > 0 x, y > 0 then 24 x y - 24xy could be really negative, thereby reducing the value even further. So, how do you know that you've not found the actual minimum.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 2 months ago

Hi, I had a similar solution. 2 (2x+3)^2 + 2 (3y-3)^2 - 24xy + 80 Same results for x and y. If we use 0 for x or y, the missing 18 shows up as result of the first or second term! But weird, like before. :-)

Armin Hubatsch - 3 years, 4 months ago

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The reason for that observation is that the minimum occurs when 2 x 3 y = 3 2x-3y = -3 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 4 months ago
Daniel Rabelo
Aug 14, 2014

2x-3y=k --> (k-4)²+(k+10)²=2k²+12k²+18-18+116=2(k+3)²+98. setting 2x-3y=-3 --> min=98

Mike Singer
May 8, 2014

Since 2x-3y can take any value, the answer is half the difference (-4 - (-10)) = -7, squared (49), then doubled as the two halves are summed, hence 98.

Paolo Leonetti
May 7, 2014

Define the function $f\colon \mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R}\colon (x,y) \mapsto 2x-3y+3$. Each section of this map of suriective, and in particular also the function itself. Hence the expression can be rewritten as $(X+7)^2+(X-7)^2$, where $X=f(x,y)$ can be any real value. At this point, it is enough to expand :)

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