Appropriate Substitution

Algebra Level 3

x 3 6 x 2 + 12 x = 8 x^3 - 6x^2 + 12x = 8

If a , b , c a,b,c are the roots of the cubic equation above. And given that for coprime positive integers m , n m,n , we have:

( 1 a + 1 b + 1 c ) 2 = m n \left ( \frac 1 a + \frac 1 b + \frac 1 c \right )^2 = \frac m n

What is the value of 16 ( m n ) 16(m-n) ?


The answer is 80.

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6 solutions

Sakanksha Deo
Mar 8, 2015

First method - direct and easy method

( 1 a + 1 b + 1 c ) 2 ( \frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b} + \frac{1}{c} )^{2}

= ( b c + a c + a b a b c ) 2 = ( \frac{ bc + ac + ab }{ abc } )^{2}

Now,

We know that,

a b c = 8 a b + b c + a c = 12 abc = -8 \\ ab + bc + ac = 12

Therefore,

= ( b c + a c + a b a b c ) 2 = ( \frac{ bc + ac + ab }{ abc } )^{2}

= ( 12 8 ) 2 = m n =( \frac{12}{8})^{2}= \frac{m}{ n}

= ( 3 2 ) 2 = m n =( \frac{3}{2})^{2} = \frac{m}{n}

Therefore,

16 ( m n ) = 80 16(m - n) = \boxed{80}

Second method - a bit concept based one

The equation who's roots will be 1 a , 1 b , 1 c \frac{1}{a} , \frac{1}{b} , \frac{1}{c} is,

8 x 3 12 x 2 + 6 x 1 = 0 8x^{3} - 12x^{2} + 6x - 1 = 0

Now,

Sum of roots = 1 a + 1 b + 1 c = 12 8 \frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b} + \frac{1}{c} = \frac{12}{8}

= 3 2 = \frac{3}{2}

Therefore,

m n = ( 3 2 ) 2 = 9 4 \frac{m}{n} = ( \frac{3}{2} )^{2} = \frac{9}{4}

Therefore,

16 ( m n ) = 80 16( m - n ) = \boxed{80}

There are some minor typos in your solution.

a b + b c + c a = 12 ( 12 ) , a b c = 8 ( 8 ) ab+bc+ca=12\neq (-12)~~,~~abc=8\neq (-8)

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Sorry.... :)

Sakanksha Deo - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Can you update the value of a b c abc ? You can do so by selecting "Edit" at the bottom of your solution.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Sorry again....new to brilliant...still not perfect in writing solutions or questions....thanx for helping me out and request you to help me in future as well... :)

Sakanksha Deo - 6 years, 3 months ago

hi im not very good at math.. why abc = 8 and ab+bc+ca=12?

Jøhn Franz Sewan - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Look up Vieta's Formulas

Aditya Arjun - 6 years, 2 months ago
Aniket Verma
Mar 27, 2015

The given equation \text {The given equation} x 3 6 x 2 + 12 x = 8 x^{3} - 6x^{2} + 12x = 8 is simply the expansion of \text {is simply the expansion of} ( x 2 ) 3 = 0 (x-2)^{3}=0 .

hence, \text {hence,} a = b = c = 2 a=b=c=2

S o , So, ( 1 a + 1 b + 1 c ) 2 = m n = 3 2 2 2 = 9 4 ( \dfrac{1}{a} + \dfrac{1}{b} + \dfrac{1}{c} )^{2} = \dfrac{m}{n} = \dfrac{3^2}{2^2}= \dfrac{9}{4}

Therefore, \text {Therefore,} 16 ( m n ) = 16 × ( 9 4 ) = 80 16(m-n) = 16\times (9-4) = 80

I would have used the same method as Sakanksha Deo \text {I would have used the same method as Sakanksha Deo} if the equation would have been a bit different \text {if the equation would have been a bit different} but the given equation is a simple one therefore not proceeded that way. \text {but the given equation is a simple one therefore not proceeded that way.}

Uahbid Dey
Aug 25, 2015

Pravin Dharmaraj
Apr 20, 2015

a,b,c are the roots From the eqn ab+bc+ac=12,abc=-8 (1/a + 1/b + 1/c)^2=((ab+bc+ac+)/abc)^2=(12/-8)^2=(-3/2)^2=9/4 9/4=m/n m=9,n=4 16(m-n)=16(9-5)=16(5)=80

Vikas Kumar Singh
Apr 14, 2015

x^3 - 6x^2 + 12x - 8 = 0 ; (x-2)^3 = 0 ; x = 2 ; all the three root are equal and its 2 ; so a = 2; b = 2; c = 2 ; (1/a + 1/b + 1/c)^2 = 9/4 = m/n ; m = 9; n = 4; 16(9-4) = 80

Ramesh Goenka
Mar 14, 2015

or else replace x by 1/x :P so that the roots are multiplicative inverse of themselves ..!:P

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