Iota and Theta Day Problem

Algebra Level 3

The five roots of the equation z 5 = 4 4 i z^{5}=4-4i each take the form

2 e k π i 20 , \Large \sqrt{2} e ^ { \frac{ k \pi i } { 20} },

where k k is a positive integer less than 40.

Find the sum of all values of k k .


The answer is 115.

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3 solutions

Ronak Agarwal
Aug 14, 2014

z 5 = 4 4 i { z }^{ 5 }=4-4i

Writing this in polar form we get :

z 5 = 2 ( 5 / 2 ) e i π 4 { z }^{ 5 }={ 2 }^{ (5/2) }{ e }^{ \frac { -i\pi }{ 4 } }

Applying de moviere's formula we get :

z = 2 e i π 20 + 2 k π 5 = 2 e ( 8 k 1 ) i π 20 z=\sqrt { 2 } { e }^{ \frac { -i\pi }{ 20 } +\frac { 2k\pi }{ 5 } }=\sqrt { 2 } { e }^{ \frac { (8k-1)i\pi }{ 20 } }

Comparing with the given equation we get :

K j = ( 8 k 1 ) { K }_{ j }=(8k-1) where k ϵ I k\epsilon I

Put the values of k to get :

K j = 7 , 15 , 23 , 31 , 39 { K }_{ j }=7,15,23,31,39

Sum of all the K j i s = 7 + 15 + 23 + 31 + 39 = 115 {K}_{j} is =7+15+23+31+39=\boxed{115}

That Kartik Sharma is me!! Thanks @Krishna Ar , great problem!!!

Hey, @Ronak Agarwal if we do it by the following method, then why did we have to take theta as 7 π 4 \frac{7\pi}{4} instead of 3 π 4 \frac{3\pi}{4}

z 5 = 32 ( c o s 3 π 4 + ι s i n 3 π 4 ) {z}^{5} = \sqrt{32} (cos \frac{3\pi}{4} + \iota sin \frac{3\pi}{4} )

z = 2 ( c o s 3 π 4 + 2 k π 5 + ι s i n 3 π 4 + 2 k π 5 ) z = \sqrt{2} (cos \frac{\frac{3\pi}{4} + 2k\pi}{5} + \iota sin \frac{\frac{3\pi}{4} + 2k\pi}{5} )

z = 2 e ι 3 π 4 + 2 k π 5 z = \sqrt{2} {e}^ {\iota \frac{\frac{3\pi}{4} + 2k\pi}{5} }

Now, why do we need to change 3 π 4 t o 7 π 4 \frac{3\pi}{4} to \frac{7\pi}{4} because while getting the answer by 5, we get it as 95, while the answer is 115 with 7.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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The reason is clear : 32 e 5 i π 4 { \sqrt { 32 } e }^{ \frac { 5i\pi }{ 4 } } = 4 4 i -4-4i and not 4 4 i 4-4i

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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oh sorry, I wanted to ask about 3 π 3\pi /4!

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Kartik Sharma The reason is again clear 32 e 3 i π 4 = 4 + 4 i { \sqrt { 32 } e }^{ \frac { 3i\pi }{ 4 } }=-4+4i and not 4 4 i 4-4i

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Ronak Agarwal How did you get it? ( actually I am new to complex numbers and did this problem just by trying for 3 first and then 5) :(

How did you differentiate between tan x = 1/-1 and -1/1??

I hope I am not disturbing you!!

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Kartik Sharma 1/-1 and -1/1 are one and the same thing pls make your question clear.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Ronak Agarwal As far as I know,

if x <0 and y >= 0, then,

angle = arctan(y/x) + π \pi

Therefore, angle = arctan(4/-4) + π \pi

= 3 π \pi /4 + π \pi = 7 π \pi /4

Then, why did you say -4 + 4i has an angle of 3 π \pi /4??

Source : Wikipedia

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Kartik Sharma Listen,take my advice, these formulaes are only useful for writing in paper neatly. They hold no good use in solving questions(they are often confusing,for me atleast)

When you want to find the angle made by complex number with the x-axis just draw a co-ordiante plane and for any complex number x + i y x+iy mark the point ( x , y ) (x,y) in it.

Then it is very easy to visualise the angle made by that complex number.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Ronak Agarwal Oh, thanks! But, then I must also need a protractor, then!! :P

Anyways, can you pls tell me how you figured out 32 e i 3 π / 4 = 4 + 4 i \sqrt{32}{e}^{i3\pi /4 } = -4 + 4i

You can also consider not answering my question because this is getting too lengthy!(this discussion)

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Kartik Sharma I meant visualising the quadrant in which the complex number is in.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Ronak Agarwal Hmm Thank You!!

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

I have a doubt about the question . I have solved the question but in second attempt ans. should be 76 because kj =39 does not satisfy the real equation we get kj= 39 after putting k= 5 in 8(k-1) but we can only put k= 0,1,2,3,4 only . please check it....

Rohan Kumar - 6 years, 3 months ago

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The solution should be -1+7+15+23+31=75?

Sayan Das - 4 years, 8 months ago

I have done exactly same till the (8k-1) part.You have taken k=1,2,3,4,5.But,should not it be k=0,1,2,3,4?

Sayan Das - 4 years, 8 months ago
Dylan Cope
Sep 17, 2014

z 5 = 4 4 i = 4 2 e i ( 2 π k π 4 ) {z}^{5}=4-4i=4\sqrt{2}{e}^{i(2\pi k - \frac{\pi}{4})} , through writing the complex number in exponential form.

The expression 2 π k π 4 2\pi k - \frac{\pi}{4} comes from the argument being π 4 -\frac{\pi}{4} and adding any multiple of 2 π 2\pi to the argument keeps the value the same.

z = 2 e i π 20 ( 8 k 1 ) \therefore z=\sqrt{2}{e}^{\frac{i\pi}{20}(8k-1)}

Where the expression 8 k 1 = K j 8k-1=K_j

Hence plugging in suitable integer values of k k , ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 1,2,3,4,5 ), it can be found that the values of K j K_j in the range 0 < K j < 40 0<K_j<40 are 7 , 15 , 23 , 31 , 39 7,15,23,31,39 .

Summing these results in 115 \boxed{115}

Z^5=4-4i=4(1-i) convert into polar form z=2^1/2(cos2mπ/5-π/20)+isin(2mπ/5-π/20) therefore we have the values of m is 1,2,3,4,5 we can put the value compare the values of m =7,15,23,31,39 adding all of them value of m , m mean k =116~(mean 115) so anser is 115

Sachin Kumar - 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Steven Zheng
Aug 31, 2014

There is nothing wrong with Ronak Agarwal's approach, except he should have specified the difference between De Moivre's theorem and De Moivre's Theorem for finding roots: z = r 1 / n c i s ( θ + 2 π k n ) z={r}^{1/n}cis\left(\frac{\theta+2\pi k}{n}\right) where k k ranges from 0 to n 1 n-1 .

The modulus is indeed 2 \sqrt{2} because we have r = ( 32 ) 1 / 5 r= {\left(\sqrt{32}\right)}^{1/5} . We then solve for the arguments: t a n 1 ( 4 / 4 ) + 2 π k 5 \frac{{tan}^{-1}(-4/4) + 2\pi k}{5} .

Hence we get radian measures of 7 20 , 15 20 , 15 20 , 23 20 , 31 20 \frac{7}{20},\frac{15}{20},\frac{15}{20},\frac{23}{20},\frac{31}{20} . Adding the numerators, we get 115.

Man, you rock!! :D Level 5 in all!

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

can you tell me about cis() function?

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Cis is the abbreviation of Cos and Isin....:P So lame!

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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