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Evaluate the real part of the number i i i . . . \Huge {i^{i^{i^{.^{.^{.}}}}}} .

Note: i i is the imaginary number 1 \sqrt{-1}


The answer is 0.438.

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Digvijay Singh
May 3, 2015

Duplicate question .

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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whats lambert function......... plz reply..

rajat kharbanda - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Lambert W function ... basically it's a special function: to find the inverse of W e W = f ( w ) We^W = f(w) . That is, if you have an equation x e x = 12345 x e^x =12345 , then the value of W ( 12345 ) W(12345) is simply the root of the previous equation. Simplest way to solve it is by numerical / approximation method.

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pi Han Goh I saw the solution to the above posted duplicate question.. I had made the equations , but he writes using numerical methods we get value of a and b........ plz sorry to disturb you, thanks.......... could you explain

rajat kharbanda - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Rajat Kharbanda See equation 12 here , set x = 1 2 π i x = -\frac 12 \pi i .

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pi Han Goh gone over my head...... but thanks anyway

rajat kharbanda - 6 years, 1 month ago

@Pi Han Goh nice explanation sir, but would you please show me a proof that the infinite tetration converge only when e e x e 1 e e^{-e} \le x \le e^{\frac{1}{e}}

Digvijay Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Digvijay Singh Hint: what's the extreme values of x 1 x x^{\frac 1x} ?

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pi Han Goh its e 1 / e e^{1/e} , but how is this connected to the convergence?

Digvijay Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Digvijay Singh See this .

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pi Han Goh thanks , now i get it...

Digvijay Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago

shit...! i did'nt knw... sorry... should i remove this now (the question)?

Digvijay Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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It's up to you. I would have removed it if I were you.

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

Let i i i . . . = x i^{i^{i^{.^{.^{.}}}}}=x

x = i x \therefore x=i^x

Differentiating both sides with respect to x x :

1 = i x l o g e i 1=i^x \cdot log_e i

1 = x l o g e i \implies 1=x \cdot log_ei

x = 1 l o g e i = 2 i . π \implies x=\dfrac{1}{log_ei}=\dfrac{2}{i.\pi}

So, real part of x x is 0 0 .

What's wrong with it ? @Digvijay Singh

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 1 month ago

i i i . . . = A + B i = i A + B i e π i 2 ( A + B i ) = e π B 2 e π A i 2 = A 2 + B 2 e tan 1 B A i i^{i^{i^{...}}} = A+ Bi = i^{A+Bi}\quad \Rightarrow e^{\frac{\pi i}{2}(A+Bi)} = e^{-\frac{\pi B}{2}} e^{\frac{\pi Ai}{2}} = \sqrt{A^2+B^2} e^{\tan^{-1} {\frac {B}{A}}i}

{ e π B 2 = A 2 + B 2 A 2 + B 2 = e π B . . . ( 1 ) π A 2 = tan 1 B A tan π A 2 = B A B = A tan π A 2 . . . ( 2 ) \begin{cases} e^{-\frac{\pi B}{2}} = \sqrt{A^2+B^2} & \Rightarrow A^2+B^2 = e^{-\pi B} & & ...(1) \\ \frac{\pi A}{2} = \tan^{-1} {\frac {B}{A}} & \Rightarrow \tan {\frac{\pi A}{2}} = \dfrac {B}{A} & \Rightarrow B = A \tan {\frac{\pi A}{2}} & ...(2) \end{cases}

Substituting Eqn. 2 in Eqn. 1:

A 2 + A 2 tan 2 π A 2 = e π A tan π A 2 A^2+A^2 \tan^2 {\frac{\pi A}{2}}= e^{-\pi A \tan {\frac{\pi A}{2}}}

Using numerical method, we find that A = 0.438282937 A=\boxed{0.438282937}

What do you mean by numerical method ?

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I used Excel spreadsheet to calculate f ( A ) = A 2 + A 2 tan 2 π A 2 e π A tan π A 2 f(A) = A^2+A^2 \tan^2 {\frac{\pi A}{2}} - e^{-\pi A \tan {\frac{\pi A}{2}}} . I first estimated a value for A A , A 1 A_1 then I checked for f ( A 1 ) 0 f(A_1^*) \approx 0 , then estimated a more accurate value for A A , A 2 A_2 and continued to about A 10 A_{10} .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I plotted the graph. Just wondering if there's a method without using calculator/computer.

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pranjal Jain I plotted the graph too to check the f ( x ) 0 f(x) \approx 0 but with a spreadsheet. If the equation can be easily differentiated, we can use Newton's Method x n + 1 = a n f ( x n ) f ( x n ) x_{n+1} = a_n - \dfrac{f(x_n)}{f'(x_n)} . Numerical method usually needs calculator/computer.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Sir, while using newtons meathod, What to take x o x_{o} initially? How to know what to take?

Md Junaid - 3 years, 10 months ago

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@Md Junaid Usually any near estimate will work.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 10 months ago

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