Irodov problem; ODE solving practice

Difficulty: Not hard. It's pretty easy conceptually; the only not-so-easy part is integrating for velocity

So, I kind of jumped late onto the Irodov bandwagon, and I decided to solve some problems today.

Here's the problem:

A bar of mass m m resting on a smooth horizontal plane starts moving due to the force F = m g 3 \displaystyle F = \frac{mg}{3} of constant magnitude.

Note that in the diagram the angle is labelled as α \alpha , but to not confuse you between α \alpha and a a , I have given it as θ \theta . While in one dimensional motion, the angle θ \theta between the direction of this force and the horizontal varies as θ = a x \theta = ax , where a a is a constant, and x x is the distance traversed by the bar from its initial position.

Find the velocity of the bar as a function of the angle θ \theta .

The answer comes in the form:

v ( θ ) = p q g sin ( θ ) a \displaystyle v(\theta) = \sqrt{\frac{p}{q}\frac{g \sin(\theta)}{a}}

Where p p and q q are co-prime positive integers. Type the value of p + q p+q into the answer box.

By the way, since Irodov's problem solutions are all over the internet, don't go around looking for them before you solve the problem. It'll only take 5 minutes to solve this one.


The answer is 5.

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1 solution

Talulah Riley
Sep 20, 2020

Write the basic equations
Vertical direction: N + m g 3 sin θ = m g N+\frac{mg}{3} \sin \theta=mg
Horizontal direction: F = m g 3 cos θ F=\frac{mg}{3} \cos \theta
Which gives a x = g 3 cos θ a_{x} =\frac{g}{3} \cos \theta Note that θ = a x \theta= ax
0 v v d v = g 3 0 x cos ( a x ) d x \int_{0}^{v} vdv=\frac{g}{3} \int_{0}^{x} \cos (ax)dx
Integrating and substituting the limits gives: v 2 = 2 g 3 a sin ( a x ) v^{2}=\frac{2g}{3a} \sin (ax)
v = 2 g 3 a sin θ v=\sqrt{\frac{2g}{3a} \sin \theta }


@Lil Doug Too easy bro. Nice one. You've done Irodov, haven't you?

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately, I have solved the whole mechanics section of Irodov, so this problem is very common.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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Haha lol. Nice. I only just started doing Irodov.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik Nice bro. Keep going and keep posting, it will be like a revision for me, so it will be a benefit for me also.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

@Lil Doug While Irodov is not easy, it's a piece of cake compared to your Pathfinder problems.

Edit: I actually take back what I said. The majority of Irodov is quite hard.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik Yeah Pathfinder is also easy too.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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Well, I mean it's not super hard, but what's the problem sheet with your momentum conservation problems that you sent to me?

That was pretty hard imo.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik @Krishna Karthik yeah, maybe.
bye I am having date with my girlfriend today.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

@Lil Doug Btw, where do you get your Classical Mechanics problems that you post nowadays regularly? Those ones are quite tough.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

@Lil Doug Imagine being that one person who got this problem wrong🤣

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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