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If a , b , c a,b,c are three positive integers such that a b c + a b + b c + c a + a + b + c = 1000 abc + ab + bc + ca + a + b + c = 1000 , then enter the value of a + b + c a+b+c .


The answer is 28.

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From the given expression, ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) = 1001 = 13 11 7 (a+1)(b+1)(c+1)=1001=13\cdot 11\cdot 7 . As a , b , c a,b,c are positive integers, then ( a + 1 ) , ( b + 1 ) , ( c + 1 ) > 1 (a+1),(b+1),(c+1)>1 , therefore, a + 1 = 7 a+1=7 , b + 1 = 11 b+1=11 and c + 1 = 13 c+1=13 , thus, a + b + c = 28 a+b+c=28 . The order of the factors does not matter.

Please can you elaborate how you factorized the expression?

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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Umm... Its just basic prime factorizing.

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

7 1001 11 143 13 13 1 \begin{array} {c|c} 7 & 1001\\ 11 & 143 \\ 13 & 13 \\ & 1\\ \end{array}

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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I don't understand this sorry. Plz elaborate!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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@Rishabh Tiwari Um.. 1001 ÷ 7 = 143 1001 ÷ 7 = 143 , 143 ÷ 11 = 13 143 ÷ 11 = 13 . 13 ÷ 13 = 1 13÷13=1 . So, 1001 = 7 × 11 × 13 1001 = 7 × 11 × 13 .

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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@Ashish Menon That's not what I asked , I was asking the factorization of abc + ab + bc + ca + a + b + c ?

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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@Rishabh Tiwari a ( b c + b + c + 1 ) + ( b c + b + c ) = a ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) + ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) 1 = ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) 1 a(bc+b+c+1)+(bc+b+c)=a(b+1)(c+1)+(b+1)(c+1)-1=(a+1)(b+1)(c+1)-1

Mateo Matijasevick - 5 years ago

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@Mateo Matijasevick Thank you sir, its clear now.! Perfect sol. Btw.!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

@Rishabh Tiwari Ashish can you tell me if we can comment using Latex ? How so?

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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@Rishabh Tiwari Comment using LaTeX? We can always type latex codes between \ ( and \ ) or \[ \text{\[} and \text{ }\) are thecase maybe.

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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@Ashish Menon Can you give an example?

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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@Rishabh Tiwari Hi \text{Hi} . Now go to your icon in the top right part of the screen press toggle LaTeX and see this comment. You will see something like LaTeX: \ ( \text{Hi} \ ). Now remove the word LaTeX and the colon : and post the remaining of it in a new comment and watch the magic happen!

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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@Ashish Menon Hi \text{Hi} .

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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@Rishabh Tiwari Bye \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Bye}} .

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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@Ashish Menon B y e \boxed{Bye}

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

@Ashish Menon Got it thanks !!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

Very nicely done +1!!!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago
Vijay Simha
Jun 4, 2016

Based on Mateo's solution, we can also construct more problems like this:

If abcd + abc + acd + abd + bcd + ab + bc + cd + ad + a + b + c + d = 21020, then find a + b + c +d... Ans: a + b + c + d = 31 or 48

or

If abcd + abc + acd + abd + bcd + ab + bc + cd + ad + a + b + c + d = 31030, then find a + b + c +d... Ans: a + b + c + d = 58

and so on..

Nice thought +1! .

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

Interesting.?

Rishu Jaar - 3 years, 7 months ago
Rishabh Tiwari
Jun 3, 2016

The problem can also be done by using algebra but a bit longer method , @Hung Woei Neoh & @Ashish Siva please comment , thank you.!

Nice question (+1) let me think of that.

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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Ok buddy thanx for commenting , as of now I am going to my coaching classes ,will be hearing from you in the evening. and yep I learnt basic latex with your help, thank you so much.!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

Will you mind sharing algebraic way of tackling this problem ? :)

Aditya Sky - 5 years ago

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Its a very long method & a waste of time to use , @Mateo Matijasevick has presented the best solution! However I can give you a hint , just write the eq.n as:-

a b ab + + b c bc + + a a + + c c = = 1000 1000 - a b c abc - c a ca - b b ,

Now LHS can be factorised in (a+c)(b+1) \text{(a+c)(b+1)} , from here you will get the value of b or a+c \text{b or a+c} , you can find either of the two & after writing cyclic expressions in a,b,c \text{a,b,c} solve the system of equations, & finally you get the value of a+b+c \text{a+b+c} as 28. Factorization is the key to solving these type of problems. Hope this helps , thank you!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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