Is It Really Possible?

How many unordered pairs of positive integers ( A , B ) (A,B) are there such that

A + B + lcm ( A , B ) = 51 ? A + B + \text{lcm}(A,B)=51 \ ?


The answer is 4.

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3 solutions

Abhishek Singh
Nov 14, 2015

Let us suppose two numbers as kx and ky.
LCM=kxy
k(x+y+xy) = 51.
x+y+xy=51..(x+1)(y+1)=52. so (1,25)...if k=1
x+y+xy=17 (x+1)(y+1)=18 so (1,8), (2,5)...if k=3
x+y+xy = 3 (x+1)(y+1)=4 so (1,1)...if k=17.
So,the answer is 4.


Can you please elaborate your answer? What are the pairs exactly?

Arulx Z - 5 years, 7 months ago

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(1,25);(6,15);(3,24);(17,17)

Abhishek Singh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Oh! I though that -

m + n = lcm ( m , n ) = 51 m + n = \text {lcm}(m,n)=51

Arulx Z - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Arulx Z I too made the same assumption.

Janardhanan Sivaramakrishnan - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Janardhanan Sivaramakrishnan Oh. In that case, I've added a report to fix the question.

Arulx Z - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Arulx Z Sorry for inconvenience sir......I just fixed that

Abhishek Singh - 5 years, 7 months ago

When you write ( A , B ) (A,B) without comment, you are referring to an ordered pair (like a pair of coordinates), so there should be 7 solutions: (17,17), (3,24), (24,3), (6,15), (15,6), (1,25) and (25,1).

If you want the answer 4 4 , the question should probably read: "How many unordered pairs A A , B B of positive integers ..."

Mark Hennings - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Done sir....Thnx for edit

Abhishek Singh - 5 years, 6 months ago

LCM (0, 51) = 0 by Microsoft Excel. Meaning to say not only starting with 1 but 0, both of them can have common 0 as a result. LCM (6, 15) = 30 as both started with 1 which does not include 0, but otherwise there could only be 0.

Starting only with multiplier of 1, 0 can never have common multiple with others. 0 suppose to be excluded in this sense.

Original definition of LCM does not include Non-Natural Numbers. But because "Least Common Multiple" was not mentioned, I thought I could just applied LCM() of Microsoft Excel. I didn't realize or otherwise I could have tried 4 as my third trials.

Microsoft Excel could have bugs I think. But please remove ambiguity of this question. Please consider to change the title. There is nothing surprising for having answers.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 7 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Nov 15, 2015

So we must find to (positive) integers a , b a, b such that S = a + b + lcm ( a , b ) = 51. S = a + b + \text{lcm}(a,b) = 51.

Write a = k m a = km , b = k n b = kn , where m , n m, n are coprime and k k is the greatest common divisor of a , b a, b . Then S = k ( m + n + m n ) = 51 , S = k(m + n + mn) = 51, or ( m + 1 ) ( n + 1 ) = 51 k + 1. (m+1)(n+1) = \frac{51}k + 1. This limits the possibilities to k = 1 , 3 , 17 , 51 k = 1, 3, 17, 51 . We solve the equation, keeping only the solutions where m m and n n have no common factors. k = 1 ( m + 1 ) ( n + 1 ) = 52 = 2 26 m = 1 , n = 25 a = 1 , b = 25 4 13 m = 3 , n = 12 invalid k = 3 ( m + 1 ) ( n + 1 ) = 18 = 2 9 m = 1 , n = 8 a = 3 , b = 24 3 6 m = 2 , n = 5 a = 6 , b = 15 k = 17 ( m + 1 ) ( n + 1 ) = 4 = 2 2 m = 1 , n = 1 a = 17 , b = 17 k = 51 ( m + 1 ) ( n + 1 ) = 1 no solutions \begin{array}{llrll} k = 1 & (m+1)(n+1) = 52 & = 2\cdot 26 & m = 1, n = 25 & a = 1, b = 25 \\ && 4\cdot 13 & m = 3, n = 12 & \text{invalid} \\ k = 3 & (m+1)(n+1) = 18 & = 2\cdot 9 & m = 1, n = 8 & a = 3, b = 24 \\ && 3\cdot 6 & m = 2, n = 5 & a = 6, b = 15 \\ k = 17 & (m+1)(n+1) = 4 & = 2\cdot 2 & m = 1, n = 1 & a = 17, b = 17 \\ k = 51 & (m+1)(n+1) = 1 & & & \text{no solutions} \\ \end{array} Thus there are 4 \boxed{4} solutions, with ( a , b , lcm ( a , b ) ) = ( 1 , 25 , 25 ) ; ( 3 , 24 , 24 ) ; ( 6 , 15 , 30 ) ; ( 17 , 17 , 17 ) . (a, b, \text{lcm}(a,b)) = (1, 25, 25);\ (3, 24, 24);\ (6, 15, 30);\ (17, 17, 17).

My solution: x+y+xy=51 By Simon's favorite factoring trick, (x+1)(y+1)=52 we list all numbers which when multiplied equals 52 ~4(13), 13(4) ,2(2), 2(26), 52(1), 1(52).. Clearly 52(1) and 1(52) cant be qualified because either x or y will become zero, so.. There are 4 such pairs.

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