Is there sufficient information?

An 8-digit number with no 0's (ORIGINAL) has its digits scrambled to form a smaller number (REARRANGEMENT):

ORIGINAL REARRANGEMENT = FINAL . \text{ORIGINAL} - \text{REARRANGEMENT} = \text{FINAL}.

If FINAL has no 0's and contains 8 distinct digits, then which of the digits from 1 to 9 is missing from FINAL?

If there is insufficient information to determine, enter your answer as 0.


The answer is 9.

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2 solutions

Denton Young
Jan 24, 2017

FINAL has to have a digital root of 9, because ORIGINAL and REARRANGEMENT have the same digital root, being composed of the same numbers.

1 + 2 + ... + 9 = 45, which has a digital root of 9. One of those digits is missing, and the remaining 8 have to sum to a digital root of 9. This is only possible if 9 is removed from the set.

We show that this can be achieved: 33462111 - 21116433 = 12345678

Great question!

You have shown that 9 is necessary. How can we show that 9 is sufficient by finding an example? It is not immediately clear to me that there exists (say) "final - original = 12345678".

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 4 months ago

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By programming, I found at least one instance 22351000 ( 22351000 10005322 = 12345678 22351000 - 10005322 = 12345678 ). And probably many many more possible.

Ivan Koswara - 4 years, 4 months ago

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ORIGINAL isn't supposed to have any 0's, but we can modify your solution as follows:

33462111 - 21116433 = 12345678

Denton Young - 4 years, 4 months ago

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@Denton Young Whoops, didn't see the condition. Yes, just increment each digit by 1.

As a further question, is there an ORIGINAL whose digits are all different?

Ivan Koswara - 4 years, 4 months ago

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@Ivan Koswara That is a very good question. Someone who has access to a Python-programmable computer will have to answer it. Unless they want to search every possibility by hand. And remember that FINAL doesn't have to be 12345678, the digits can be in any order. FINAL being 24318675, for example, would be just fine.

Denton Young - 4 years, 4 months ago

I don't actually know of an example offhand, which is why I used the phrasing of "IF (listing conditions for FINAL).". I can try and find one...

Denton Young - 4 years, 4 months ago

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If we don't want to prove the existence of such a number, why don't we just add a line of "Suppose that we can assume that there is such an integer ORIGINAL that satisfy all these conditions." ?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 4 months ago

let original = 1 0 7 x 1 + 1 0 6 x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + 1 0 1 x 7 + x 8 10^7x_1+10^6x_2+.................+10^1x_7+x_8

where x 1 , x 2 . . . . . . . . . . x 8 x_1,x_2..........x_8 are digits

final = original - some random rearrangement of original

now original = ( ( 1 0 7 1 ) x 1 + ( 1 0 6 1 ) x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ( 1 0 1 1 ) x 7 ) + ( x 1 + x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x 7 + x 8 ) ((10^7-1)x_1+(10^6-1)x_2+.................+(10^1-1)x_7)+(x_1+x_2+................x_7+x_8)

= 9 a 9a + ( x 1 + x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x 7 + x 8 ) (x_1+x_2+................x_7+x_8)

similarly any rearrangement = 9 b 9b + ( x 1 + x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x 7 + x 8 ) (x_1+x_2+................x_7+x_8)

thus final = original - some random rearrangement of original

=( 9 a 9a + ( x 1 + x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x 7 + x 8 ) ( 9 b (x_1+x_2+................x_7+x_8) -(9b + ( x 1 + x 2 + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x 7 + x 8 ) ) = 9 ( a b ) (x_1+x_2+................x_7+x_8))=9(a-b)

thus final is a multiple of 9 9

therefore sum of 8 digits must be a multiple of 9 9

( 1 , 8 ) , ( 2 , 7 ) , ( 3 , 6 ) , ( 4 , 5 ) (1,8),(2,7),(3,6),(4,5) all add upto 9 9 , thus the missing digit has to be 9 9

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