⎩ ⎨ ⎧ x y = 1 x 2 − y 2 = 1
Find the angle in which these two curves intersect each other.
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@Tapas Mazumdar , could you do the Steven Chase's Mechanics Problem? I did it a bit, but couldnt finished it
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I'm also stuck in a latter part of the problem.
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Which part? I have done
Arc lenght from a to b will be ∫ a b 1 + e − 2 x d x ?
Then what have you done?
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@Md Zuhair – Same. I think we both are missing something here.
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@Tapas Mazumdar – Which direction shall we try out? Horizontal or vertical?
Most probably horizontal will meet the expression's demand!
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@Md Zuhair – But the acceleration due to gravity acts in the vertical direction only. We have to make a constraint for x direction.
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@Tapas Mazumdar – Ya, but that doesnt meets the expressions demand.
See, if we do it in vertical direction itll come
e b 2 g ( e b − 1 ) − e a 2 g ( e a − 1 ) = 2 g × t a b .
So t a b doesnt meets the demands isnt it?
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@Md Zuhair – i asked him to upload a solution for u @Md Zuhair
@Tapas Mazumdar – Can you post a solution for this https://brilliant.org/problems/do-you-need-m/?ref_id=1348822
@Tapas Mazumdar, then what i have done is i was finding v a x or v b x , then?
Or in vertical direction, it is quite easy, but it doesnt match with the expression of Steven sir
Can you please explain your solution?I could not get it.Thanks!
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He calculated the slope of the tangent at the point of the intersection and observed m 1 m 2 = − 1 which is the condition of perpendicularity.
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Ya, thank you so much, Actually i am using phone, so its difficult to write
Thanks, now got it!
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@Harsh Shrivastava – If it was not equal to − 1 then what should i have done say toh?
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@Md Zuhair – I think we should have found the angle between the tangents at the point of intersection.
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@Harsh Shrivastava – How? Tell me the meathod. I know we can do it. I am just asking , that if you dont know i will help
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@Md Zuhair – Solve for the point of intersection then tangent at point intersection then slopes if them then done!
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@Harsh Shrivastava – Ya after finding the slopes, you know what formula we need to apply?
It is simply tan θ = ∣ ∣ ∣ ∣ 1 + m 1 × m 2 m 1 − m 2 ∣ ∣ ∣ ∣
@Harsh Shrivastava – And hey @Harsh Shrivastava , Do you have whatsapp, We have a group. We can add you there.
Using the grad function on both curves: ∇ ( x y ) = ( y , x ) ∇ ( x 2 − y 2 ) = 2 ( x , − y ) so these are the tangents to the curves x y = 1 and x 2 − y 2 = 1 respectively (at points (x,y)). Dotting these gives: ( y , x ) ⋅ ( x , − y ) = y x − x y = 0 So the curves intersect at right angles, that is, at 2 π radians.
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We need to find the slope of the 2 lines 1st.
So x y = 1
Differentiating w.r.t x , we get
y + x d x d y = 0 ⟹ d x d y = x − y . . . . ( i )
Now differentiating x 2 − y 2 = 1 w.r.t x , we get
⟹ 2 x − 2 y d x d y = 0 ⟹ d x d y = y x . . . . . . ( i i )
So ( i ) × ( i i ) ⟹ x − y × y x ⟹ − 1
So They are perpendicular to each other, or the product of their slopes in − 1
So angle between the curves at the point of intersection will be 2 π