Given that a , b , c and d are 4 distinct non-zero real numbers such that the points ( a , a 1 ) , ( b , b 1 ) , ( c , c 1 ) and ( d , d 1 ) lie on a circle.
Find the value of a × b × c × d .
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What else can we say about how a , b , c , d are related?
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I don't think you want the summation sign in the last equation.
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Definately a , b , c , d all can't be real..
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Are you sure? Doesn't the question state that they are all real values? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
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@Calvin Lin – Yes, questions says that a , b , c , d are real numbers but I think there are no such real points that satisfy the given condition.
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@Akhil Bansal – Not true. Take any circle that intersects the hyperbola y = x 1 at 4 points. For example, with r > 1 , the 4 distinct points ( r , r 1 ) , ( r 1 , r ) , ( − r , − r 1 ) , ( − r 1 , − r ) would lie on a circle centered on the origin of radius r 2 + r 2 1 .
The slightly more interesting case occurs when we have an "arbitrary" circle placed, where it's not immediately obvious that a b c d = 1 .
On substituting the values ( a , a 1 ) , ( b , b 1 ) , ( c , c 1 ) and ( d , d 1 ) in the standard form of circle ( x 2 + y 2 + 2 g x + 2 f y + c = 0 , we obtain four cyclic equations.
Note that if we swap, say ( a , a 1 ) with ( a 1 , a ) the equations remain unchanged. Clearly, then a 1 = a.
Also, since the equations are cyclic a = b = c = d . 1 & − 1 satisfiy the required conditions.
But a , b , c and d are 4 distinct non-zero real numbers.
If you think about the plot of the function 1/x that intersects a circumference whose center is the origin of the axes, their common points are 4. For the symmetry of 1/x respect (0,0) these points have equal and opposite x coordinate from two in two. Being also points of the circumference the problem is sym respect (0,0) so the same process can be repeated thinking in terms of the y coordinate. In particoular consider two points that have x coordinates (a,1/a) and (-a,-1/a), for symmetry the other two points have to have the y coordinate as a and -a , finally their x coordinates are 1/a and -1/a.
In the end the result of (a)(-1/a)(-a)(1/a) is 1
Not true. There are many other possibilities that do not arise from having { a , b , c , d } = { r , − r , r 1 , − r 1 } .
You are making the assumption that the circle must be centered at the origin, which is not necessarily true. For example, we could have a circle of radius 100, centered at ( 1 , 0 ) which intersects the curve y = x 1 at 4 points.
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You're right. I didn't pretend to demonstrate this way the result in its generality, for all cases. My purpose was to explain how I easily solved the problem just thinking about a simple case.
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Let equation of circle is x 2 + y 2 + 2 g x + 2 f y + c = 0
Since, ( a , a 1 ) lies on circle, we get
a 2 + a 2 1 + 2 g a + 2 f ( a 1 ) + c = 0 a 4 + 1 + 2 g a 3 + 2 f a + c a 2 = 0 Using Vieta's formula , ∑ a b c d = 1