Its just a collision

A ball of mass m m falls vertically from a height 42.05 m 42.05~m and collides with a block of equal mass m m moving horizontally with a velocity v v on a horizontal surface. The coefficient of kinetic friction is μ k = 0.2 \mu_{k}=0.2 while the coefficient of restitution between the block and ball is 0.5 0.5 . There is no friction acting between the block and the ball. The velocity of the block just after the collision decreases by K m / s K~m/s

Find K |K|

Details and Assumptions

Take acceleration due to gravity as 10 m / s 2 10~m/s^{2}

The block doesn't bounces off the ground after collision.

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The answer is 8.7.

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1 solution

Tanishq Varshney
Apr 18, 2015

I don't know whether my solution is correct or not, feel free to report any flaw.

I will place the values later in the answer.

velocity of ball after collision is e 2 g h e\sqrt{2gh}

Impulsive force from normal causes change in momentum of the ball.

J N = N . d t = J_{N}=N.dt= f i n a l final - i n i t i a l initial m o m e n t u m momentum .

As after collision velocity of ball is in opposite direction so

N . d t = m e 2 g h ( m 2 g h ) N.dt=me\sqrt{2gh}-(-m\sqrt{2gh})

( after replacing value of e e )

N . d t = 1.5 m 2 g h N.dt=1.5m\sqrt{2gh} ................................... ( 1 ) (1)

The impulsive frictional force (denoted as f f ) will cause change in momentum of block.

J f = f . d t = m Δ v J_{f}=f.dt=-m \Delta v

(minus sign because velocity decreases)

Using

f = μ k N f=\mu_{k} N

μ k N . d t = m Δ v \mu_{k}N.dt=-m\Delta v

From ( 1 ) (1)

μ k × 1.5 m 2 g h = m Δ v \mu_{k}\times 1.5m\sqrt{2gh}=-m\Delta v

putting values

Δ v = 0.2 × 1.5 20 × 42.05 \Delta v=-0.2\times 1.5\sqrt{20\times 42.05}

Δ v = K = 8.7 |\Delta v|=|K|=8.7

@satvik pandey What was ur method, do post, and plz tell any mistake in the above solution.

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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You neglected weight of block while calculating normal force which is quite obvious. I dont think there's any flaw in the solution but the answer comes out to be 8.61.

Satvik Choudhary - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I think u used g = 9.8 m / s 2 g=9.8~m/s^{2} but i mentioned it to be 10 10 . Still i am happy that the solution i posted is correct.

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

Nice solution. +1

I did same too.

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As the block does not bounce then Net vertical force should be zero. Now there are three forces (yes three forces, impulses are large forces but they act for a very short period of time). So J n = J + m g J_{n}=J+mg but as forces are very small as compared to the impulses so they can be neglected. So J n = J J_{n}=J

Try this . This question also involves same concept. :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Also it can be said that like spring force , mg is not an impulsive force. Am i correct??

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney Yes mg can't be impulsive.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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