Stable particle ring - JEE

Four particles, each of mass M M are equidistant from each other in 3 dimensional space. They each move along a circle of radius R, under the action of their mutual gravitational attraction. The speed of each particle is:

( 1 ) 1 2 G M R ( 1 + 2 2 ) ( 2 ) G M R ( 3 ) 2 2 G M R ( 4 ) G M R ( 1 + 2 2 ) \begin{array} { l l l } & (1) \frac{1}{2} \sqrt{ \frac{GM}{R} ( 1 + 2 \sqrt{2}) } \qquad \qquad & (2) \sqrt{ \frac{ GM } {R} } \\ & (3) \sqrt{ 2 \sqrt{2} \frac{ GM}{R} } & (4) \sqrt{ \frac{GM}{R} ( 1 + 2 \sqrt{2} ) } \\ \end{array}

Choose the number which corresponds to the correct answer.

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3 solutions

Murlidhar Sharma
May 12, 2014

JEE Mains 2014 question, i got it right there too

Since the motion of the 4 particles is constrained, we can simply find their respective speeds through the radial acceleration equation,

a r a d i a l = v 2 R { a }_{ radial }\quad =\quad \frac { v^{ 2 }\quad }{ R }

From that, we only need to find a r a d i a l { a }_{ radial } and we're good to go.

So first, use the given image to imagine the force vectors of a single particle (just focus on one to save you the hassle), in my case, the leftmost particle will be the point of focus. I believe you'll agree with me that the three force vectors are one that's point ingdirectly to the right, one that's 45° upward and the third one's 45° downward. From there, you only need to find the +x components of each vectors (radial force).

F r a d i a l = F 1 c o s 45 + F 2 + F 3 c o s 45 M a r a d i a l = G M 2 2 R 2 c o s 45 + G M 2 4 R 2 + G M 2 2 R 2 c o s 45 a r a d i a l = G M 4 R 2 ( 1 + 2 2 ) { F }_{ radial }\quad =\quad { F }_{ 1 }cos45\quad +\quad { F }_{ 2 }\quad +\quad F_{ 3 }cos45\\ M{ a }_{ radial }\quad =\quad G\frac { { M }^{ 2 } }{ 2{ R }^{ 2 } } cos45\quad +\quad G\frac { { M }^{ 2 } }{ 4R^{ 2 } } \quad +\quad G\frac { { M }^{ 2 } }{ 2{ R }^{ 2 } } cos45\\ { a }_{ radial }\quad =\quad G\frac { { M } }{ 4R^{ 2 } } (1\quad +\quad 2\sqrt { 2 } )

After which, just substitute a r a d i a l { a }_{ radial } to the first equation above and solve for v.

John Zack - 7 years, 1 month ago

Particles are not equidistant to each other as stated...

Kushagra Jaiswal - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Kushagra Jaiswal yes!! the question is definitely wrong........ i too got confused but solved the question because there can't be another possibility

Kunal Mandil - 7 years, 1 month ago

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I know.. It is not possible to put 4 particles 'equidistant' from EACH OTHER in 3-d plane. The question is totally wrong! WTH :| Wonder who allowed this question to be published?

Noor Muhammad Malik - 7 years ago

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@Noor Muhammad Malik @Noor Muhammad Malik ya i also know that case in 3-d but then the question can't be solved.....

Kunal Mandil - 7 years ago

easy1, mere calculation

Vardaan Mongia - 7 years, 1 month ago

can u give the discription for this answer pls

Samuel Kumar - 7 years, 1 month ago

Net force on any one particle will be sum of gravitational forces from other three particles and this force will be equal to centripetal force so \frac { M{ u }^{ 2 } }{ { R } } =\frac { G{ M }^{ 2 } }{ { R }^{ 2 } } \left[ \frac { 1+2\sqrt { 2 } }{ 4 } \right] and you get the answer u=\frac { 1 }{ 2 } \sqrt { \frac { GM }{ R } \left( 1+2\sqrt { 2 } \right) }

Murlidhar Sharma - 7 years, 1 month ago

The question is wrong......the particles are not equidistant from each other as stated

DEEPAK KHATRI - 7 years, 1 month ago

particles should have been given to be on vertices of a square

Murlidhar Sharma - 7 years, 1 month ago
Jaivir Singh
May 22, 2014

NET FORCE IS EQUAL TO CENTRIPETAL FORCE

Srijan Singh
May 13, 2014

Breaking the forces on any one body gives two components of GM ^2cos45°/2R^2 and one GM^2/4R^2. Equate this to Mv^2/R.

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