JOMO 7, Short 2

Algebra Level 4

If ( w 1 ) ( w + 1 ) = w (w-1)(w+1)=w , find the value of w 10 + 1 w 10 w^{10}+\dfrac{1}{w^{10}}


The answer is 123.

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7 solutions

Sanjeet Raria
Sep 12, 2014

Given w 2 1 = w w^2-1=w = > ( w 1 w ) = 1 =>(w-\frac{1}{w})=1 Squaring, we get ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) = 3 (w^2+\frac{1}{w^2})=3 Now, ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) 5 = ( w 10 + 1 w 10 ) + 5 ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) + 10 ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) (w^2+\frac{1}{w^2})^5=(w^{10}+\frac{1}{w^{10}})+5(w^6+\frac{1}{w^6})+10(w^2+\frac{1}{w^2}) Now we need ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) (w^6+\frac{1}{w^6}) We get this term here, ( w 2 + 1 / w 2 ) 3 = ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) + 3 ( w 2 + 1 / w 2 ) (w^2+1/w^2)^3=(w^6+\frac{1}{w^6})+3(w^2+1/w^2) On solving, ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) = 18 (w^6+\frac{1}{w^6})=18 Putting all the values in our main equation, ( w 10 + 1 / w 10 ) = 3 5 5 ( 18 ) 10 ( 3 ) = 123 (w^{10}+1/w^{10})=3^5-5(18)-10(3)=\boxed{123}

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Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Krishna, the generalized idea you're talking about is Binomial Theorem. You can pdf it on the net for now. BTW i really appreciate your curiosity. Keep that buddy!

Sanjeet Raria - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Sure @Sanjeet Raria - I do know that its the binomial theorem :P...but wanted to know to simplify the binomial coefficients for higher powers- Just that's all, when such questions come up in exams with weird numbers, i lose my cool trying to redraw the pascal's tri...or maybe mentally restate the theorem LOL

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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@Krishna Ar And I also know the 1,5,10,10,5,,,1 :P thing!!

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

for those who might be thinking about AM-GM here, the variable, w here need not be a positive real or even real. It is just the whole value that matters.

Sanjeet Raria - 6 years, 9 months ago

I would like to know if there exists another solution without using messy algebra, using instead some properties of the golden ratio I found w 10 = 55 w + 34 w^{10} = 55w + 34 which we know the exact value, but I wasn't able to do the same with 1 w 10 \frac{1}{w^{10}} Any ideas?

Jordi Bosch - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Might my solution be what you're looking for? I wouldn't say it uses messy algebra, anyway.

HS N - 6 years, 9 months ago
Hs N
Sep 13, 2014

When expanding ( w 1 ) ( w + 1 ) = w (w-1)(w+1)=w we get w 2 w 1 = 0 w^2-w-1 =0 , which is the characteristic equation of any Fibonnaci-like sequence, given by F n = F n 1 + F n 2 F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2} . General solutions to this recurrence relation are of the form F n = a w n + b 1 w n F_n=aw^n+b\frac{1}{w^n} for w = 1 + 5 2 w=\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2} , since w w and 1 w \frac{1}{w} are the zeroes of the equation. The values for a a and b b relate to F 0 F_0 and F 1 F_1 .

In our current case, we want to know w 10 + 1 w 10 w^{10}+\frac{1}{w^{10}} , so we want to know the tenth value in the sequence corresponding to a = b = 1 a=b=1 . We find that F 0 = 2 , F 1 = 1 F_0=2, F_1=1 and easily calculate the successive terms of ( F n ) (F_n) from here: 3 , 4 , 7 , 11 , 18 , 29 , 47 , 76 , 123 3, 4, 7, 11, 18, 29, 47, 76, 123 and so F n = 123 F_n=\boxed{123} .

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Soham Dibyachintan - 6 years, 9 months ago

Awesome and beautiful :) (y)

Akash Baran Ghosh - 6 years, 9 months ago

Notice that there's a small error with ± \pm : the roots are w w and 1 w \frac{-1}{w} . Since 10 is even, this doesn't affect the result or method.

HS N - 6 years, 8 months ago
Hari Eeshwar
Sep 12, 2014

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Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago
Anik Mandal
Sep 13, 2014

( w 1 ) ( w + 1 ) = w (w-1)(w+1)=w

w 2 1 = w w^{2}-1=w

Dividing both sides by w w ,we get

w 1 w = 1 w-\frac{1}{w}=1

Squaring and adding 2 2 to both sides,we have

w 2 + 1 w 2 = 3 \boxed{w^{2}+\frac{1}{w^{2}}=3}

Simultaneously squaring and subtracting 2 2 from both sides,we get the following equations:

w 4 + 1 w 4 = 7 \boxed{w^{4}+\frac{1}{w^{4}}=7} and w 8 + 1 w 8 = 47 \boxed{w^{8}+\frac{1}{w^{8}}=47}

Now note that: w 10 + 1 w 10 = ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) w^{10}+\frac{1}{w^{10}}=(w^{2}+\frac{1}{w^{2}}) ( w 8 + 1 w 8 ) (w^{8}+\frac{1}{w^{8}}) - ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) (w^{6}+\frac{1}{w^{6}})

In this equation we only have to find the value of ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) (w^{6}+\frac{1}{w^{6}})

Now ( w 6 + 1 w 6 ) (w^{6}+\frac{1}{w^{6}})

= ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) 3 3 ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) (w^{2}+\frac{1}{w^{2}})^{3}-3(w^{2}+\frac{1}{w^{2}})

= 3 3 3.3 3^{3}-3.3

= 18 18

Now substituting this value in the main equation,

w 10 + 1 w 10 w^{10}+\frac{1}{w^{10}}

= ( w 2 + 1 w 2 ) (w^{2}+\frac{1}{w^{2}}) ( w 8 + 1 w 8 ) (w^{8}+\frac{1}{w^{8}}) - 18 18

= 3.47 18 3.47-18

= 123 \boxed{123}

Anindya Maity
Sep 15, 2014

w+1/w=sqrt(5) as

can anyone put up a solution with complex numbers?

jillu tip - 6 years, 8 months ago
Tim Cieplowski
Sep 13, 2014

By the first equation, w = ± ϕ = 5 ± 1 2 w = \pm \phi = \frac{\sqrt{5} \pm 1}{2} .

Then w 10 + 1 w 10 = 1 2 10 ( i = 0 10 ( ( 10 i ) 5 i ( 1 ) 10 i ) + i = 0 10 ( ( 10 i ) 5 i ) ) = 1 2 9 k = 0 5 ( ( 10 2 k ) 5 2 k ) = 1 2 9 62976 w^{10} + \frac{1}{w^{10}} = \frac{1}{2^{10}} \left(\sum_{i=0}^{10} \left( {10 \choose i} \sqrt{5}^i (-1)^{10-i} \right) + \sum_{i=0}^{10} \left( {10 \choose i} \sqrt{5}^i \right) \right)= \frac{1}{2^9} \sum_{k=0}{5} \left( {10 \choose 2k} \sqrt{5}^{2k} \right) = \frac{1}{2^9} 62976

Rifath Rahman
Sep 12, 2014

(w^2)-1=w or w-(1/w)=1 or (w-1/w)^2=1^2 [squaring both sides] or w^2+(1/w^2)-2=1 or w^2+(1/w^2)=1+2 or (w+1/w)^2-2=3 or (w+1/w)^2=5 so w+1/w=sqrt 5,Now w^10+(1/w)^10=(w^5)^2+(1/w^5)^2=(w^5+1/w^5)^2-2={(w^3+1/w^3)(w^2+1/w^2)-(w+1/w)}^2-2=[{(w+1/w)^3-3(w+1/w)}{(w+1/w)^2-2}-(w+1/w)]^2-2=[{(sqrt 5)^3-3 sqrt 5}{(sqrt 5)^2-2}-sqrt 5}^2-2=[(5 sqrt5-3 sqrt5) 3-(sqrt 3)]^2-2=[2 sqrt5 3-sqrt5]^2-2=[6 sqrt5-sqrt5]^2-2=[5 sqrt5]^2-2=125-2=123(ans)

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Micah Wood - 6 years, 7 months ago

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