An algebra problem by Ravneet Singh

Algebra Level 4

x y + y z + z x \Large xy + yz + zx

If x , y , z x, y, z are positive real numbers and x y z = 2017 xyz = 2017 , which of the given options is not a possible value of above expression?

951 951 4034 4034 2017 2017 478 478

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1 solution

Md Zuhair
Jun 2, 2017

By AM-GM Inequality \color{#3D99F6}\text{By AM-GM Inequality}

We have,

x y + y z + z x 3 x 2 y 2 z 2 3 \dfrac{xy+yz+zx}{3} \geq \sqrt[3]{x^2y^2z^2}

x y + y z + z x 3 x 2 y 2 z 2 3 xy+yz+zx \geq 3\sqrt[3]{x^2y^2z^2}

Now x y z = 2017 xyz=2017

So putting the value,

We get

x y + y z + z x 3 x 2 y 2 z 2 3 x y + y z + z x 478.915 xy+yz+zx \geq 3\sqrt[3]{x^2y^2z^2} \implies xy+yz+zx \geq 478.915

So x y + y z + z x 478.915 xy+yz+zx \geq \boxed{478.915}

So 478 478 is not possible answer.

This solution is incomplete. Do you see why?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years ago

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The solution shows what the minimum of the expression can be. It does not give any info about its maximum.

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years ago

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Precisely! In particular, it does not explain that the rest of the numbers can be achieved.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years ago

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@Calvin Lin But I am not able to find any maxima for this. Can you help me out? Is it \infty ?

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years ago

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@Tapas Mazumdar Same, I am too having difficulty to find it out.

Md Zuhair - 4 years ago

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@Md Zuhair Can you achieve (approximately) 201 7 2 ? 201 7 3 2017^2? 2017^3 ? How can we show that "all large enough values can be achieved"?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years ago

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@Calvin Lin This is what I have in my mind. Since there is no restriction on distinct values for the variables we can fix x = y x=y , now we see that

x 2 z = 2017 z = 2017 x 2 x^2 z = 2017 \implies z = \dfrac{2017}{x^2}

Letting x 0 x \to 0 gives z z \to \infty and so the expression

x y + y z + z x = 2017 ( 1 x + 1 y + 1 z ) = 2017 ( 2 x + 1 z ) xy + yz + zx = 2017 \left( \dfrac 1x + \dfrac 1y + \dfrac 1z \right) = 2017 \left( \dfrac 2x + \dfrac 1z \right)

which also tends to \infty as x 0 x \to 0 and z z \to \infty .

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years ago

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@Tapas Mazumdar Great! So now we've established that any number that is "large enough" can be achieved.

How much is "large enough" though? IE can every number between 478 and "large enough" be achieved?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years ago

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