Keeps sliding!

Algebra Level 3

A man wants to climb a pole 50m tall pole. At first, he first climbs 1m but slides down 1m back to the ground. Then, he climbs 2m, but slides down 1m. Then, he climbs 3m, but slides down by 1m. Then, he climbs 4m, but slides down by 1m, and so on.

If the man spends 10 seconds for each meter he climbs up and 5 seconds for each meter he slides down, then how many seconds will it take him to reach the top of the pole?

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The answer is 650.

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5 solutions

The pole is 50m tall. Suppose that he climbs 10 times without slips must be reach 55m since 1+2+...+10=55, but if he also slips 10 times, he almost reach 45m. Until here, he takes 10x55 + 5x10 seconds = 600 seconds.
Next he have to climbs 5m more which takes 5x10 seconds = 50 seconds.
Thus the minimum time taken is 600+50 = 650 seconds

Classic example of a problem when you must account for the last stage being different from all the others...

Gregory Ruffa - 7 years, 1 month ago

Why does he have to climb 5m more?

M S - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Because for 10 times climbs and 10 times slips he only reach 45 m, then to reach the top he have to climb 5 m more

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 7 years, 1 month ago

Where is the calculation for the time taken for slipping 1m downwards?

Ritu Roy - 7 years, 1 month ago

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that 10x55 means 10 seconds per m for 55m climbing, and 5x10 means 5 seconds per m for 10 time slipping

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Where is the calculation for slipping 1m downwards for the part "next he have to climb 5m more which takes 5x10 seconds = 50 seconds"?

MJ M - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Mj M in the 10th climb and 10th slip he reach 45m, next he can climbs 11m but he only need climb 5 m and after reach the top, he isn't slip anymore

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 7 years, 1 month ago

Why are you taking 5 seconds for a 1m slip if it is given that any movement by 1m takes 10 seconds?

Roman Fedoseev - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Roman Fedoseev It takes 10 seconds for each meter to moves up, and 5 seconds for each meter to moves down (slip)

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 5 years, 6 months ago

stupid me, I substract 600 with 50. I should add it. facepalm

Eka Kurniawan - 7 years ago

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so did i lol

oli deal - 21 hours ago

i did"nt understand why u have not subtracted the time taken to fall per metre that is 5 sec.....

anvit tyagi - 7 years ago

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No, we didn't substract the time taken to fall. We count the total time taken until reach the top, which means we count the total time taken to climb and also time taken to slip

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 7 years ago

dude for every slip of 1m it takes 10 sec, why have you taken 5 sec so the correct ans comes out to be 700 sec

Anupam Gupta - 5 years, 7 months ago

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I agree it should be 700s

up 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 5 down 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 total movement 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 5 70

Total movement is 70 m x 10s per metre.

No way to paste a chart in here.... ??

Kevin Bishop - 5 years, 6 months ago

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It takes 10 seconds for each meter to moves up, and 5 seconds for each meter to moves down

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 5 years, 6 months ago

nice logical problem!

Umang Vasani - 7 years ago

I got the answer as 10........ . . . . . . . . . . .......................minutes and 50 seconds

Shubham Thakkar - 7 years ago

I think it is 550 pl check

Aditya Tapase - 7 years ago

However by the logic of slipping 1m on every ascent doesn't it mean he shall never reach the top unless he exceeds the height of the pole? Please clarify

Rishav Kumam - 4 years, 11 months ago

i think in ten step when you climb 45m then you will have to climb 6m extra because you will slip by 1m again so ans i think is 650 +10+5

PRABODH TIWARI - 7 years ago

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but the [ple is only 50m tall.....there is no further height available...

Navneet Mundhra - 7 years ago

Bro after on climbing 11th time he has to climb 11m but distance left is only 5m so he has to climb only 5m bcouz then he will reach top

Shobhit Mishra - 7 years ago
Mohit Malpani
May 13, 2014

In the first step displacement is 0 In second step it is 1 m In third it is 3 m And so on..

In tenth step it is 45 m

Thus he has climbed 10 times up in the way 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10 m Which sums up to 55.

And slipped down 10 times. He needs to travel 5m more to reach the top.

Total time taken is thus (55+5)x10 for up and 10 x 5 for down. Total is 650 seconds.

Aji Karunakaran
May 13, 2014

I scribbled down a cumulative time table stepwise, with achieved height on left and time-taken on right which went like 1-10, 0-15, 2-35, 1-40, 4-70, 3-75, . . . and finally reached 45-600, 50-650. Not the right way to do it. But I thought I should share it. Wisnawa has already given the right key to it.

Thanks for it

Suradnyana Wisnawa - 7 years, 1 month ago

I too did exactly the same. Because I couldn't tell beforehand which would be the last step....The table makes it very clear.

Ashutosh Kapre - 4 years ago
Dominik Zmelik
May 17, 2019

I felt a need to write it out nicely in Latex so here goes.

We take the sum of climbing up k 1 k-1 after let's say 10 steps. Where k k represents the increasing distance the man travels up the pole before sliding down.

k = 1 10 k 1 = 45 \displaystyle\sum_{k=1}^{10}k-1=45

This worked out nicely because we only have 5 more meters to go. Then we take a second sum for the amount of time this took where we solve for time rather than distance.

k = 1 10 10 k + 5 = 600 \displaystyle\sum_{k=1}^{10}10k+5=600

Because in the 11th step the man will climb 11m before he goes down 1m, he will not slide down the 1m at all since he only has 5m to go. Given 1 m = 10 s 1m=10s we can solve for 5 m = 50 s 5m=50s .

600 + 50 = 650 s e c o n d s \Rightarrow 600+50= 650\:seconds

Hi Dominik, Just asking, is there any way to get straight to the value of the summation 10k+5 without adding one by one?

For example, summation of k from k=1 to 10 we can simply put 10 into n(n+1)/2, and we will get to the answer.

Thiam Yu Siew - 1 year, 5 months ago

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Hi, yes there is. If you dont know it by now, the arithmetic sum formula is Sn=(n/2)(2a1+(n-1)d), where a1 is the first term of the sequence, d is the common difference (in this case it is 10 since it goes 10, 20, 30...) and n is the amount of terms (in this case there are 10 terms). So it would be S10=5(20+(10-1)*10))=550 and we added the 5 ten times also which ends up being 50 adding up to 600.

Dominik Zmelik - 1 year, 1 month ago
Les Schumer
Mar 5, 2019

For a "general" case, consider the "steps" as: ( 1 1 ) + ( 2 1 ) + ( 3 1 ) + ( 4 1 ) . + ( N 1 ) + X = 50 (1-1)+(2-1)+(3-1)+(4-1) …. +(N-1)+ X = 50 where X is the size of the final "step"

Rearranging terms yields: ( 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + . . . + N ) + N ( 1 ) + X = 50 (1+2+3+4+...+N) + N(-1) + X = 50

The sum of successive N integers is given by: N ( N + 1 ) 2 \frac{N*(N+1)}{2} so N ( N + 1 ) 2 N + X = 50 \frac{N*(N+1)}{2} - N + X = 50

Rearranging yields the quadratic N 2 N ( 100 2 X ) = 0 N^2 - N - (100-2X) = 0

As the final "Step" must be smaller than the next logical step in the series, X < N X < N

Solving the quadratic yields ( N 10 ) ( N + 9 ) = 0 (N-10)(N+9) = 0 with X = 5 X=5

Ignoring the negative root yields N = 10 N = 10

Back to the original formula : 10 ( 10 + 1 ) 2 10 + 5 = 50 \frac{10*(10+1)}{2}\ - 10 + 5 = 50 => 55 10 + 5 = 50 55 - 10 + 5 = 50 => 60 10 = 50 60 - 10 = 50

So he climbs a total of 60 metres up and slides a total of 10 metres down and the time is 60 10 s e c s + 10 5 s e c s = 650 s e c s 60*10secs + 10*5secs = 650secs

Please forgive me for sneaking a quadratic into a section on linear equations! :)

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