2017 blocks

2017 blocks each of mass m = 20.17 kg m = \SI{20.17}{\kilogram} are connected by massless strings and the whole system is fixed to a rigid ceiling, as shown above.

A constant force F = m g F = mg acts on the 201 7 th 2017^\text{th} block and displaces it. As a result, the entire system is disturbed and subsequently settles into a stationary equilibrium. In the equilibrium position, the string above block i i subtends an acute angle of θ i \theta_i with the vertical.

What is θ 1 \theta_1 (in degrees) to 3 decimal places? Take acceleration due to gravity as g = 9.80 m / s 2 . g=\SI[per-mode=symbol]{9.80}{\meter \per \second \squared}.


The answer is 0.028.

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3 solutions

Steven Chase
Mar 25, 2017

Treat the whole system as one big object. There is a vertical force of 2017 m g 2017 mg downward, and a horizontal force of m g mg rightward.

The first string must supply x x and y y forces in this ratio to maintain equilibrium. Therefore, θ 1 = a t a n ( x f o r c e y f o r c e ) = a t a n ( 1 2017 ) 0.028 \theta_1 = atan \left(\frac{x force}{y force}\right) = atan\left(\frac{1}{2017}\right) \approx 0.028 degrees.

Moderator note:

This is an elegant solution, and it encompasses a crucial insight regarding hanging strings—the horizontal component of tension is equal at all points along the string. If it weren't, we couldn't group things together as object.

I found the phrasing of the original problem confusing. Stationary equilibrium implies a system that is not in motion (aka fully evolved). The problem is apparently only interested in the momentary equilibrium of the point in time with the systems current state.

Daniel Langstaff - 4 years, 2 months ago

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I am not sure if I understand what you are saying. When the horizontal force is applied, the blocks would oscillate about the equilibrium position. After some time, the blocks would come to rest in this equilibrium position due to dissipative forces, and the blocks would be in stationary equilibrium. Could you elaborate more on which part do you find confusing?

Pranshu Gaba - 4 years, 2 months ago

It is a great idea to assume all the blocks in one system and apply Newton's law directly to this system. This reduces the calculations greatly.

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 2 months ago

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Thanks. Laziness occasionally pays off

Steven Chase - 4 years, 2 months ago

How tan inverse (1/2017) = 0.028 degrees?

Syed Azeem - 4 years, 2 months ago

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That's what my calculator says

Steven Chase - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Thanks for your so valuable reply.

Syed Azeem - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Syed Azeem Well, what do you want? A way to do it by hand?

Steven Chase - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Steven Chase Some method to get atleast an idea of the value.

Syed Azeem - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Syed Azeem It sounds like power series expansions and the CORDIC algorithm are typically used. Power series is probably the most straightforward way, conceptually.

Steven Chase - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Steven Chase If you are working in radians then arctan(x) is approximately x when x<<1. Arctan(1/2017) ~= 1/2017. Then convert to degrees.

Matt Williams - 4 years, 1 month ago
Ayon Ghosh
Mar 25, 2017

There is no need to evaluate m g = ( 20.17 ) ( 9.80 ) mg = (20.17)(9.80) Newtons. It eventually cancels out in the end. So we will just refer to it as m g mg to avoid tedious work.

First let us consider the string connecting blocks 2017 2017 and 2016 2016 . Draw F.B.D 's and solve for tension in the string. We get, ( remember sin theta / cos theta = tan theta.)

T = 2 \sqrt 2 mg. But T cos theta = T sin theta = mg.Thus θ = tan 1 ( 1 ) = 45 \theta = \tan^{-1}(1) = 45 degrees. (between 0 0 and 90 90 ).

Now consider the string connecting masses 2016 2016 and 2015 2015 . Again solve for tension in the string.

T = 5 \sqrt 5 mg. But T cos theta = 2 mg and T sin theta = mg. Thus θ \theta = tan 1 ( 1 / 2 ) \tan^{-1} (1/2) .

Let us consider a final case blocks 2014 2014 and 2015 2015 .

T = 17 \sqrt {17} mg. But T cos theta = 3 mg and T sin theta = mg. Thus θ = tan 1 ( 1 / 3 ) \theta = \tan^{-1} (1/3) .

Alright, you should have already seen this coming up.

When there is 1 1 block below the string, angle = tan 1 ( 1 ) \tan^{-1}(1) .

When there are 2 2 blocks below the string, angle = tan 1 ( 1 / 2 ) \tan^{-1}(1/2)

When there are 3 3 blocks below the string, angle = tan 1 ( 1 / 3 ) \tan^{-1}(1/3) .

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When there are 2017 2017 blocks below the string, angle made by the string with the vertical = tan 1 ( 1 / 2017 ) \tan^{-1}( 1/2017) .

Amazing, isn't it? But that 's the sort of approach you might use if in a hurry. I will generalise it.

Okay, so again from our observations, we see that,

T sin theta remains constant = mg always.

But,

T cos theta = k mg (where k = integers 1, 2, 3 ...etc.)

This makes sense because as we go up a mass m g mg keeps on getting added.

So, one component of the Tension remains constant whereas the other keeps on increasing.

So, for the i t h i^{th} block T sin θ / T cos θ = m g / i m g T \sin \theta / T \cos \theta = mg / i mg

Thus, tan θ = 1 / i \tan \theta = 1 / i .

For block 1, i = 2017 i = 2017 ( because we are going backwards.).

So θ 1 = tan 1 ( 1 / 2017 ) = 0.028 \theta_1 = \tan^{-1} (1/2017) = 0.028 degrees.


Question was thought out by me.Hope you liked it.I tried to make it like those asked in Mathematical Olympiads.Just added a touch of Physics. .

I guess this is how science sometimes works, you make one good observation and using that generalise the case for all scenarios.Wonderful !.

Ayon Ghosh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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Ya although one could use recursions for this problem.Its much more simple if you take all the 2017 blocks as the system

Spandan Senapati - 4 years, 2 months ago

@Spandan Senapati Yes, my bad I used such a huge method.It could be made much shorter using Steven 's method.

Ayon Ghosh - 4 years, 2 months ago

Oh, you have found the values of all θ i \theta_i 's. They form such a nice pattern, don't they? The problem looked complex, but the solution is very elegant. Choosing the right system can make all the difference.

If we make the strings very small, and greatly increase the number of blocks, then what shape would the system look like?

Pranshu Gaba - 4 years, 2 months ago

@Pranshu Gaba I guess it would look like a cuboid.But what relation does it have to the original question ?

Ayon Ghosh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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We can solve the question "what is the shape when we apply a horizontal force m g mg at the base of hanging rope?"

A uniform rope can be approximated as a series of small blocks. I think the string would begin to look like a uniform rope in the shape of a parabola.

Pranshu Gaba - 4 years, 2 months ago
Jack Ceroni
Apr 30, 2019

Looking at the last block, we can call the tension in the last string F T ( 2017 ) F_{T(2017)} set up the equations:

F T ( 2017 ) sin θ 2017 m g = 0 F T ( 2017 ) sin θ 2017 = m g F_{T(2017)} \sin \theta_{2017} \ - \ mg \ = \ 0 \ \Rightarrow \ F_{T(2017)} \sin \theta_{2017} \ = \ mg F T ( 2017 ) cos θ 2017 m g = 0 F T ( 2017 ) cos θ 2017 = m g F_{T(2017)} \cos \theta_{2017} \ - \ mg \ = \ 0 \ \Rightarrow \ F_{T(2017)} \cos \theta_{2017} \ = \ mg

Now, for each successive block, in order for this system to be in equilibrium, we will have:

F T ( n + 1 ) sin θ n + 1 F T ( n ) sin θ n = 0 F_{T(n+1)} \sin \theta_{n+1} \ - \ F_{T(n)} \sin \theta_{n} \ = \ 0

We put a negative sign on the rope attached to the bottom of the block, as the force vector will be directed in the opposite direction as the force that it exerts on the block below it. Going back to F T ( 2017 ) F_{T(2017)} , we can see the magnitude of the horizontal component of the tension within any of the strings will be m g mg . Next, we have to realize that each time we successively travel one block farther up the string, we have:

F T ( n + 1 ) cos θ n + 1 F T ( n ) cos θ n m g = 0 F T ( n + 1 ) cos θ n + 1 = F T ( n ) cos θ n + m g F_{T(n+1)} \cos \theta_{n+1} \ - \ F_{T(n)} \cos \theta_{n} \ - \ mg \ = \ 0 \ \Rightarrow \ F_{T(n+1)} \cos \theta_{n+1} \ = \ F_{T(n)} \cos \theta_{n} \ + \ mg

As we have to account for the tension pulling the block upwards and downwards, as well as gravity pulling the block downwards. This is obviously a recursive formula from which we can draw a general form. Since F T ( 2017 ) cos θ 2017 = m g F_{T(2017)} \cos \theta_{2017} \ = \ mg , we get:

F T ( n ) cos θ n = ( 2018 n ) m g |F_{T(n)}| \cos \theta_{n} \ = \ (2018 \ - \ n)mg

So for the topmost string, we have m g mg as the horizontal component of tension, and 2017 m g 2017mg as the vertical. We then take:

F T ( 1 ) sin θ 1 F T ( 1 ) cos θ 1 = 1 2017 tan θ 1 = 1 2017 θ 1 = arctan ( 1 2017 ) 0.0284 \dfrac{F_{T(1)} \sin \theta_{1}}{F_{T(1)} \cos \theta_{1}} \ = \ \dfrac{1}{2017} \ \Rightarrow \ \tan \theta_{1} \ = \ \dfrac{1}{2017} \ \Rightarrow \ \theta_{1} \ = \ \arctan \Big( \dfrac{1}{2017} \Big) \ \approx \ 0.0284

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