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Calculus Level 5

ln ( i = 2 ( 0 x i 1 e x / t t ( i ! ( i 1 ) ! ) d x ) ) \large \ln \left( \sum_{i=2}^{\infty} \left( \int_0^{\infty} \dfrac{x^{i-1} e^{{-x}/{t}} }{t \left( i! - (i-1)! \right)} \,dx \right) \right)

The above integral is defined for t ( a , b ) t \in (a,b) . Find a + b a+b .


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Aaghaz Mahajan
May 19, 2018

A simple use of Gamma Function along with telescopic series....... !! A nice question btw @Tapas Mazumdar

Same here! First Gamma function and then GP summation!

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 3 months ago

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Yup!! How are the preparations going??? And hey, did you give KVPY this year??

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 3 months ago

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Yep, sadly missed by 0.5 marks :(... And prep toh abhi thori pause karke rakhe hai.. due to boards :((

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 3 months ago

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@Md Zuhair Arre!!! That's sad!! Mera bhi aisa hi haal hua thaa....but well, my Margin was a bit more (2 marks) xD!!! Lekin iss saal to KVPY puri acchi tarah se dunga!! But arre?? Boards to gets covered in JEE prep haina??

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Aaghaz Mahajan Nahi bhai.. chapters like Communication system, Chem. in everyday life, and many more are pressed when you prep for JEE... and exclusively for JEEA, you have many more chapters not coming... so prep of boards is imp.

Also... Puri taiyari ke saath dena KVPY... I am sure youll crack it... But one honest thing i would like to say is Dont give it whole heartedly if you are not a bio student, Janta hai.. iss saal KVPY me Bio ka level class 10 ka tha.. aur Maths was B.Sc level... So you know how we suffered. Last saal cutoff was same, thik hai? Phir last saal you will see 2116 bacche ko interview me bulaya..and this saal 1780...

Toh w.r.t last year.. agar last saal hum dete toh Interview round me phoch jaate.... Phir.. Bio ka class 10 ka lvel ka hai.. (which was not d case last year.. ) phir bhi in the same marks of 43.. only 1780 students got qualifed. Samjh raha hai na?? Ki hum log Non bio ko kitna problem hua iss saal.. HUM dil laga ke padha tha KVPY ke liye.... Gave more importance than JEE..... But i was returned of with a dissapointment letter :( from IISc.. of not giving priority and importance to Non Bio...

Tab se hum soch liya... ki nahi padhenge for BS Courses... and will happily take up engineering. Kaun padhega physics aisa ek desh mein. jaha they dont give us a shit if we are really preparing for it with whole heartedly and Bio students masti ke liye diya and they got selected.. Some of them couldnt qulaify NSEP still got KVPY because of the 40 marks of bio.. they got atleast 35-38 and proved their might :(((.

I am really disappointed from KVPY Authorities , Even i had mailed them.. they didnt replied... it was like .. This is why Indians are more into Engineering. Even i have thought of taking up B.Tech

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Md Zuhair Ohh acchaa voh waale to haan yaar.........Unko to padhna hi padhega xD!!

And WAIT WHAT????!!!! Yeh kya faaltu baat hai???!! Aise thodi naa hota hai!! Abbe KVPY to vaise bhi research field ke liye bana hai, to agar koi banda BIO naa padhe to disparity thodi naa honi chahiye!!! Ye to PURE galat hai!! BIO TENTH LEVEL??!!! What the hell??!! Yaar this is just sad.........But fir, humaare India ka educatioin system bhi to dekh.......Voh bhi to kitna ganda hai....(According to me atleast) And upar se ab yeh KVPY ke kaand sunne ko aa rhe hain............Kya yaar!!! I am a PCM student!! But tab bhi, main PURI mehnat se dunga........aise Bio waalon ko advantage nhi milna chahiye!!

P.S. Hey, it is not good to use abusive words in a public site......I mean haan main bhavnayein samajh rhaa hun but it would be good if you edit that part....:)

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Aaghaz Mahajan actually you are correct.. mein flow mein abusive words use kar diya sorry...

Aur tum dena... tum mere se accha hai... tera nikal jaega... i was just shrt of 0.5 marks...

aur tum review dekhle quora mein.. its really 10th level

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Md Zuhair Geee.......Thanks yaar!! I hope so too! :) Arre but tere se accha kaise hunga main!!Yeh kya bol diya??!! XD!! Apne levels dekh Brilliant pe........SAARE level 5!! EVEN CHEMISTRY!!!!!! Main to kahin nahi aata tumhaare saamne!!

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Aaghaz Mahajan Arre... Mera level 3 tha chem mein when I started of at XI. Phir XI mein i got Level 4. And in 12 i got to 5. DO aniket sanghis tough qs.. they boost up level a lot

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 2 months ago

@Aaghaz Mahajan puri mehnat se dena.. puri dil se nahi.... dil se maat lagana.. november is a crucial time.. tab NSEP,NSEC NSEA ssaare hote hai.. phir jan mein mains

Md Zuhair - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Md Zuhair Yaa.....maine to lekin aajtak Science Olympiads nhi diye hain.......I have only given Prmo and reached INMO this and the last year, but scored badly this time....(only 39!! XD!!! Upar se iss baar to bonus question bhi thaa ek......lol)....And iss saal to 12th hai so isliye maine socha tha ki ab ki baar dekh ke denge Science Olympiads bhi!! Let us see......!

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 2 months ago
Tom Engelsman
Aug 24, 2019

Let's write this logarithm's argument in the following manner:

0 e x / t t Σ i = 2 x i 1 ( i 1 ) ( i 1 ) ! d x \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{e^{-x/t}}{t} \cdot \Sigma_{i=2}^{\infty} \frac{x^{i-1}}{(i-1)(i-1)!} dx

which the infinite series can be expressed as:

Σ i = 2 x i 1 ( i 1 ) ( i 1 ) ! = Σ i = 2 [ 0 x y i 2 ( i 1 ) ! d y ] = 0 x 1 y Σ i = 2 y i 1 ( i 1 ) ! d y = 0 x e y 1 y d y \Sigma_{i=2}^{\infty} \frac{x^{i-1}}{(i-1)(i-1)!} = \Sigma_{i=2}^{\infty} [\int_{0}^{x} \frac{y^{i-2}}{(i-1)!} dy] = \int_{0}^{x} \frac{1}{y} \cdot \Sigma_{i=2}^{\infty} \frac{y^{i-1}}{(i-1)!} dy = \int_{0}^{x} \frac{e^{y} - 1}{y} dy .

Returning to our original integral, we now have the double integral in x x and y y :

0 0 x e x / t t e y 1 y d y d x \int_{0}^{\infty} \int_{0}^{x} \frac{e^{-x/t}}{t} \cdot \frac{e^{y}-1}{y} dy dx

and by reversing the order of integration, we can now compute this as:

0 y e x / t t e y 1 y d x d y \int_{0}^{\infty} \int_{y}^{\infty} \frac{e^{-x/t}}{t} \cdot \frac{e^{y}-1}{y} dx dy ;

or 0 e y 1 y e y / t d y ; \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{e^{y}-1}{y} \cdot e^{-y/t} dy;

or 0 e ( 1 / t 1 ) y e ( 1 / t ) y y d y ; \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{e^{-(1/t - 1)y} - e^{-(1/t)y}}{y} dy;

or l n ( 1 / t 1 / t 1 ) = l n ( 1 1 t ) = l n ( 1 t ) . ln(\frac{1/t}{1/t -1}) = ln(\frac{1}{1-t}) = -ln(1-t).

Ultimately, we have the expression l n [ l n ( 1 t ) ] ln[-ln(1-t)] in which the argument must be positive in order to be valid. Hence:

l n ( 1 t ) > 0 l n ( 1 t ) < 0 -ln(1-t) > 0 \Rightarrow ln(1-t) < 0 ;

or 1 t > 0 1 > t 1-t > 0 \Rightarrow 1 > t AND 1 t < 1 0 < t 1-t < 1 \Rightarrow 0 < t

which leaves t ( 0 , 1 ) \boxed{t \in (0,1)} as the required interval for t . t.

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