Let's have some generalization

Calculus Level 5

f ( f ( x ) ) = x x [ 0 , 1 ] f ( 0 ) = 1 x ( 0 , 1 ) f ( x ) 1 x x ( 0 , 1 ) f ( x ) 1 x 1 + x \begin{aligned} f(f(x))&=x \quad \forall x \in [0,1] \\ f(0)&=1\\ \exists x \in (0,1) \to f(x) &\neq 1-x\\ \exists x \in (0,1) \to f(x) &\neq \frac{1-x}{1+x} \end{aligned}

Let f f be a differentiable function defined on [ 0 , 1 ] [0,1] and satisfies the conditions above .

Find the value of the following integral, up to three decimal places. 1 0 5 0 1 ( x f ( x ) ) 2016 d x 10^5 \int_0^1 (x-f(x))^{2016} \,dx


Source : ISI entrance examination.


The answer is 49.578.

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1 solution

Let I = 0 1 ( x f ( x ) ) n d x I=\displaystyle \int_0^1 (x-f(x))^n \, dx where n n is an even positive integer. Then, using integration by parts, I = [ x ( x f ( x ) ) n ] 0 1 n × J W h e r e J = 0 1 x ( 1 f ( x ) ) ( x f ( x ) ) n 1 d x \begin{aligned} I&=\left[x( x-f(x))^n \right]_0^1 - n \times J \\ Where \quad J&=\int_0^1 x(1-f'(x))(x-f(x))^{n-1}\, dx\\ \end{aligned}

Note that f ( f ( 0 ) ) = 0 f ( 1 ) = 0 f(f(0))=0 \implies f(1)= 0 .

Now, J = 0 1 x ( x f ( x ) ) n 1 d x 0 1 x ( x f ( x ) ) n 1 f ( x ) d x For the second integral, make the substitution t = f ( x ) x = f ( t ) d t = f ( x ) d x J= \int_0^1 x(x-f(x))^{n-1} \, dx - \int_0^1 x(x-f(x))^{n-1} f'(x) \, dx\\ \text{ For the second integral, make the substitution } \\ t=f(x) \implies x=f(t) \quad dt=f'(x)dx A little simplification, keeping in mind that n n is even, gives the following: J = I I = 1 n I I = 1 n + 1 \begin{aligned} J&=I\\ \implies I&=1-nI\\ \implies I&=\frac{1}{n+1} \end{aligned}


Note: The conditions stated in the question after the second one are irrelevant. It was given so that people who do it (without computational aids) can't cheat ;)

Hi Deeparaj.How many questions were you able to solve in the subjective paper?

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Seven. You?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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I could do 6.In your above solution,there should be a term of x in the integrand of J?

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya Yeah. I've updated it.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Could you tell me the answer of the "square" question just for the sake of verification?

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya u 2 + ( u v ) 2 u^2+(u-v)^2

Btw, did you get the sports tournament question?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Yes,that's correct.No,I could not solve that and the "right angled triangle" question.

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya Oh! If you're on Slack and if you want a solution to that problem, I can send a pic.

I wish they'd allowed us to keep the question paper of the subjective test though.

Also, I've heard that in the interview they concentrate a little on the unattempted/incorrect answers of the subjective paper.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Thanks a lot.However,I could solve it after the exam (today morning to be precise). Would 6 be enough to get an interview call?

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya I seriously have no idea about the competition. But I guess anything 5 \geq 5 (with proper justification, of course) would be sufficient.

One more thing, how'd you solve the square one?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member I used complex numbers.You?

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya Even I used complex numbers!

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Oh,that's great!

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya Hey, one more thing, did you get the tournament question after the exam? If so, could you put your solution in my note on combinatorics titled 'Need some help with this.' please?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member I have not yet tried that one.However,if I get the solution,I will definitely share my approach.

Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya - 5 years, 1 month ago

It's MUCH more challenging and interesting to find f(x) explicitely: f ( x ) = x + 1 x f(x) = \lfloor x+1 \rfloor - x\ for 0<=x<1, f(1)=0

Andreas Wendler - 5 years, 1 month ago

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The function that you've given is simply f ( x ) = 1 x f(x)=1-x

Also, the function isn't unique with the given conditions. @Andreas Wendler

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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False!!! Because this is forbidden by the 3rd statement of your task! Otherwise statement 4 tells us that f(1)<>0. Even though the behaviour of f(x) between the integration borders is defined by 1-x so f(x) has not this look and especially other border values. Of course their influence on the integral can be neglected.

But by the way this task seems to me beeing convulsively far-fetched!

Andreas Wendler - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Andreas Wendler The function you've presented is precisely the one forbidden by the 3rd statement! Let me prove it to you.

To start with let x [ 0 , 1 ) x \in [0,1) . Then, 0 x < 1 1 1 + x < 2 1 = x + 1 f ( x ) = 1 x x [ 0 , 1 ) \begin{aligned} 0 &\leq x <1\\ \implies 1 &\leq 1+x <2\\ \implies 1 &= \lfloor x+1 \rfloor\\ \implies f(x) &= 1-x \quad \forall x \in [0,1) \end{aligned}

Also note that f ( 1 ) = 0 = 1 ( 1 ) f ( x ) = 1 x x [ 0 , 1 ] f(1)=0=1-(1) \\ \implies f(x)=1-x \quad \forall x \in [0,1]

This is precisely the forbidden function!

@Andreas Wendler It seems that it's impossible to stop you from cheating (legally).

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Your whole task is total rubbish!!! Statement 1 and 2 say that f(1)=0. Statement 3 negates this since f ( 1 ) 0 f(1)\not= 0 .

I think you should prove a task against contradictions before publishing!!!

Andreas Wendler - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Andreas Wendler Ok. I see you've not got it. I'll make the change.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Not necessary anymore! "Problem" was canceled.

Andreas Wendler - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Andreas Wendler @Andreas Wendler I guess the question is fine now. Now, how would you solve it? ;)

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member I am ready with this now and got my credit. Other tasks are waiting! ;-)

Andreas Wendler - 5 years, 1 month ago

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