Let's practise the basics, Part 2

Geometry Level 5

36 x 2 + 24 x y + 29 y 2 = 180 π 36x^2+24xy+29y^2=\frac{180}{\pi}

Find the area of the region enclosed by the curve above.


The answer is 6.

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4 solutions

Otto Bretscher
Nov 16, 2015

Brian has written a fine solution. For the sake of variety, let me propose a solution in terms of quadratic forms.

The symmetric matrix of our quadratic form 36 x 2 + 24 x y + 29 y 2 36x^2+24xy+29y^2 is A = [ 36 12 12 29 ] A=\begin{bmatrix}36&12\\12&29\end{bmatrix}

with characteristic polynomial p ( λ ) = λ 2 65 λ + 900 = ( λ 20 ) ( λ 45 ) p(\lambda)=\lambda^2-65\lambda+900=(\lambda-20)(\lambda-45) so that the standard form of the ellipse is 20 u 2 + 45 v 2 = 180 π 20u^2+45v^2=\frac{180}{\pi} or π u 2 9 + π v 2 4 = 1 \frac{\pi u^2}{9}+\frac{\pi v^2}{4}=1 . The semiaxes are a = 3 π a=\frac{3}{\sqrt{\pi}} and b = 2 π b=\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} so that the area is π a b = 6 \pi ab=\boxed{6}

While it is easy to find the eigenvalues and the semi-axes in this case, it is not logically necessary; the area will be 180 det A = 6 \frac{180}{\sqrt{\det A}}=6

Moderator note:

For a quadratic form, the discriminant is invariant under a change of basis.

How can we calculate the area of an ellipse from the discriminant?

The last sentence seems to be cutoff. Can you edit it accordingly?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 6 months ago

To the Challenge Master: I have briefly addressed this issue in the last paragraph of my solution: If q ( x , y ) = C q(x,y)=C and A A is the symmetric matrix of q q , then the area of the ellipse is C π det A \frac{C\pi}{\sqrt{\det A}}

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Great! I meant that as food for thought for people who are looking at this solution. It shows the power of viewing the problem in the "right context".

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 6 months ago

The given equation is that of a rotated ellipse. To eliminate the x y xy -term and create an equation of an ellipse in standard form, (so that we can employ the ellipse area formula π a b \pi ab ,) we will need to execute a rotation of axes as per the method outlined in this link .

As described in the link, given an equation A x 2 + B x y + C y 2 + D x + E y = F , Ax^{2} + Bxy + Cy^{2} + Dx + Ey = F, we can, through a rotation of axes to an x , y x',y' grid, create a transformed equation A ( x ) 2 + C ( y ) 2 + D x + E y = F A'(x')^{2} + C'(y')^{2} + D'x' + E'y' = F' where

A = A cos 2 ( α ) + B cos ( α ) sin ( α ) + C sin 2 ( α ) , A' = A\cos^{2}(\alpha) + B\cos(\alpha)\sin(\alpha) + C\sin^{2}(\alpha),

C = A sin 2 ( α ) B sin ( α ) cos ( α ) + C cos 2 ( α ) , C' = A\sin^{2}(\alpha) - B\sin(\alpha)\cos(\alpha) + C\cos^{2}(\alpha),

D = D cos ( α ) + E sin ( α ) , E = D sin ( α ) + E cos ( α ) , F = F , D' = D\cos(\alpha) + E\sin(\alpha), E' = -D\sin(\alpha) + E\cos(\alpha), F' = F,

where cot ( 2 α ) = A C B \cot(2\alpha) = \dfrac{A - C}{B} such that 0 < α < 9 0 . 0 \lt \alpha \lt 90^{\circ}.

Now with A = 36 , B = 24 , C = 29 , D = E = 0 A = 36, B = 24, C = 29, D = E = 0 and F = 180 π , F = \dfrac{180}{\pi}, we have that

cot ( 2 α ) = 36 29 24 = 7 24 cos ( 2 α ) = 7 25 \cot(2\alpha) = \dfrac{36 - 29}{24} = \dfrac{7}{24} \Longrightarrow \cos(2\alpha) = \dfrac{7}{25}

cos ( α ) = 1 + cos ( 2 α ) 2 = 1 + 7 25 2 = 4 5 \Longrightarrow \cos(\alpha) = \sqrt{\dfrac{1 + \cos(2\alpha)}{2}} = \sqrt{\dfrac{1 + \frac{7}{25}}{2}} = \dfrac{4}{5} and sin ( α ) = 3 5 . \sin(\alpha) = \dfrac{3}{5}.

Plugging in the appropriate values, we find that A = 45 , C = 20 , D = E = 0 A' = 45, C' = 20, D' = E' = 0 and F = 180 π . F' = \dfrac{180}{\pi}. Our transformed equation then becomes

45 ( x ) 2 + 20 ( y ) 2 = 180 π ( x ) 2 4 π + ( y ) 2 9 π = 1 ( x ) 2 a 2 + ( y ) 2 b 2 = 1 45(x')^{2} + 20(y')^{2} = \dfrac{180}{\pi} \Longrightarrow \dfrac{(x')^{2}}{\dfrac{4}{\pi}} + \dfrac{(y')^{2}}{\dfrac{9}{\pi}} = 1 \Longrightarrow \dfrac{(x')^{2}}{a^{2}} + \dfrac{(y')^{2}}{b^{2}} = 1

where a = 2 π a = \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} and b = 3 π . b = \dfrac{3}{\sqrt{\pi}}. The area of this ellipse in then π a b = π 2 π 3 π = 6 . \pi ab = \pi * \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} * \dfrac{3}{\sqrt{\pi}} = \boxed{6}.

Great (+1)! I will read and enjoy your solution in the evening, after work. As you can imagine, I used a matrix to find the semi-axes, but your approach works just as well and can be understood by many more of our comrades on Brilliant.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

Or you can show that the equation is ( 6 x + 2 y ) 2 + ( 5 y ) 2 = 180 π \left(6x+2y\right)^2+\left(5y\right)^2=\frac{180}{\pi } and that the 2 focal points passes through line y = 1.3 x y=-1.3x

^^^ ignore this, theres an error.

Julian Poon - 5 years, 7 months ago

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You are close...I placed the foci on y = 4 3 x y=-\frac{4}{3}x , at ± ( 1 / 10 , 2 / 15 ) \pm(1/10,2/15)

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

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That's weird, I got the answer as exactly 6 6 , or at least 1.3 x = y -1.3x=y is what I wrote down.

I think before I left to do something else I was in a rush so I wrote 1.3 x = y -1.3x=y instead of 1.33... x = y -1.33...x=y

Update: No, it was a double error. First I got the gradient wrong, then I rounded off 2 values to "compensate" for my calculator s.f. errors when calculating the area.

Julian Poon - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Julian Poon I just wanted to show that I'm paying attention... ;)

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago
Prakhar Bindal
Nov 17, 2015

Brian Sir's approach is nice . i did not thought of rotating the coordinate axes .

we can figure out the given curve is an ellipse . (using the conditions for an equation to represent an ellipse)

Partially differentiating the equation once wrt x and then wrt y and then solving them simultaneously we

will obtain the coordinates of the centre of ellipse which turns out to be (0,0) .

now we assume a variable chord of the ellipse y = mx passing through the centre .

for the chord to be major or minor axis the distance of point of intersection of the chord with the ellipse

from the centre should be maximum or minimum respectively . (as any chord passing through the centre of

ellipse is bisected at the centre ) .

using parametric coordinates of a straight line we assume a point (rcosx , rsinx) on the line which lies at a

distance of r from the centre where x is the angle made by the line with positive direction x axis .

now substituting this point in the equation of ellipse

we will obtain an expression of r in terms of the angle x .

we can easily maximise or minimise that expression using trigonometry to get the value of semi major or

minor axis .

Actually, every quadratic form can be transformed by a rotation so that there is no cross term. For f ( x , y ) = a x 2 + 2 b x y + c y 2 f(x,y) = ax^2 + 2bxy + cy^2 , we want to rotate by tan 2 θ = 2 b a c \tan 2 \theta = \frac{2b}{a-c} , to obtain

x = x cos θ y sin θ , y = x sin θ + y cos θ x^* = x \cos \theta - y\sin \theta, y^* = x \sin \theta + y \cos \theta

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Yeah its really nice . i think these are derived using complex numbers right??

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago
Lu Chee Ket
Nov 23, 2015

I am introducing an ordinary method here. But don't think about finding an area of an ellipse. Rearrange:

29 y 2 + 24 x y + 36 x 2 180 π = 0 29 y^2 + 24 x y + 36 x^2 - \frac{180}{\pi}= 0

y 2 + 24 29 x y + 36 29 x 2 180 29 π = 0 \Rightarrow y^2 + \frac{24}{29} x y + \frac{36}{29} x^2 - \frac{180}{29 \pi}= 0

y 2 + 2 ( 12 29 ) x y + 36 29 x 2 180 29 π = 0 \Rightarrow y^2 + 2 (\frac{12}{29}) x y + \frac{36}{29} x^2 - \frac{180}{29 \pi}= 0

Obtain top curve and bottom curve from rectified quadratic forms and simplified :

y 1 = 12 29 x + 180 29 π 900 841 x 2 y_1 = \frac{-12}{29} x + \sqrt{\frac{180}{29 \pi} - \frac{900}{841} x^2} and

y 2 = 12 29 x 180 29 π 900 841 x 2 y_2 = \frac{-12}{29} x - \sqrt{\frac{180}{29 \pi} - \frac{900}{841} x^2}

180 29 π 900 841 x 2 \frac{180}{29 \pi} - \frac{900}{841} x^2 \geq 0

29 5 π x 29 5 π \Rightarrow -\sqrt \frac{29}{5 \pi} \leq x \leq \sqrt \frac{29}{5 \pi}

Plot the graphs to observe as follows:

To be more familiar with curve above x-axis (or curve below x-axis), we add 2 to both y 1 y_1 and y 2 y_2 :

y t o p = 2 12 29 x + 180 29 π 900 841 x 2 y_{top} = 2 - \frac{12}{29} x + \sqrt{\frac{180}{29 \pi} - \frac{900}{841} x^2} and

y b o t t o m = 2 12 29 x 180 29 π 900 841 x 2 y_{bottom} = 2 - \frac{12}{29} x - \sqrt{\frac{180}{29 \pi} - \frac{900}{841} x^2}

Let x x = 841 900 × 180 29 π sin θ \sqrt{\frac{841}{900}\times \frac{180}{29 \pi}} \sin \theta = 29 5 π sin θ \sqrt{\frac{29}{5 \pi}} \sin \theta

d x d x = 29 5 π cos θ \sqrt{\frac{29}{5 \pi}} \cos \theta d θ d \theta and range becomes π 2 θ π 2 . -\frac{\pi}{2} \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2}.

Area enclosed = Δ = π 2 π 2 ( y t o p y b o t t o m ) d θ \Delta = \displaystyle \int_{\frac{-\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} (y_{top} - y_{bottom}) d \theta

Δ = π 2 π 2 2 180 29 π 29 5 π cos 2 θ \Rightarrow \Delta = \displaystyle \int_{\frac{-\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} 2 \sqrt {\frac{180}{29 \pi}}\sqrt {\frac{29}{5 \pi}} \cos ^2 \theta d θ d \theta {Only a very simple integral wanted to be determined.}

Δ = π 2 π 2 12 π cos 2 θ \Rightarrow \Delta = \displaystyle \int_{\frac{-\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \frac{12}{\pi} \cos ^2 \theta d θ d \theta

Δ = 24 π 0 π 2 cos 2 θ \Rightarrow \Delta = \displaystyle \frac{24}{\pi}\displaystyle \int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \cos ^2 \theta d θ d \theta

Δ = 24 π π 4 = 6 \Rightarrow \Delta = \displaystyle \frac{24}{\pi} \displaystyle \frac{\pi}{4} = 6

N o t e : Note: Transformation onto the ellipse into rectangular orientation is N O T NOT practical as major and minor of it are in terms of π \pi and irrational, while the angle of turning required is also not convenient to determine for irrational numbers. Where this was also done by others, deeper geometry concerning rotation ought to involve. Where as here, we don't employ π \pi a b.

Answer: 6 \boxed{6}

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