x → ∞ lim ( ( ( x + 3 ) ( x + 5 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 9 ) ) 4 1 − x ) = ?
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I I can't believe i did it wrong
We can also solve this limit without L'Hopital's rule. First let
A = ( x + 3 ) ( x + 5 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 9 ) = x 4 + 2 4 x 3 + 2 0 6 x 2 + 7 4 4 x + 9 4 5 .
Multiply the expression A 4 1 − x by 1 in the form A 4 1 + x A 4 1 + x to end up with A 4 1 + x A 2 1 − x 2 .
Now multiply this last expression by 1 in the form A 2 1 + x 2 A 2 1 + x 2 to end up with
( A 4 1 + x ) ( A 2 1 + x 2 ) A − x 4 = A 4 3 + A 4 1 x 2 + A 2 1 x + x 3 2 4 x 3 + 2 0 6 x 2 + 7 4 4 x + 9 4 5 = x 3 B 4 3 + x 3 B 4 1 + x 3 B 2 1 + x 3 x 3 ( 2 4 + x 2 0 6 + x 2 7 4 4 + x 3 9 4 5 ) ,
where B = 1 + x 2 4 + x 2 2 0 6 + x 3 7 4 4 + x 4 9 4 5 .
After canceling the x 3 terms from top and bottom, and after noting that each of B 4 3 , B 2 1 and B 4 1 go to 1 as x → ∞ , we find that the original limit goes to
4 2 4 = 6 as x → ∞ .
Yeah.. But what if there are more constans..Then it becomes difficult to go further without L' Hospital. P.S Yup... You can use your method even then. I underestimated your approach.
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I always prefer to solve a limit without using L'Hospital's rule if I can, just for the challenge. I like the new question you've posted, but using both your method and mine I end up getting
lim n → ∞ L = lim n → ∞ n 1 = 0 ,
which I entered and was told that this was incorrect. I plugged the limit into WolframAlpha for n = 1 2 and got a result that was indeed very close to 1 2 1 .
I didn't want to be rude and report your question before letting you know what my thoughts were, nor did I want to reveal the posted solution in case you are certain about your answer and think I should "check my thinking" and see where I made a mistake.
Edit: O.k.. Now I see that you (or a moderator) have edited your question to finding the limit for n L , which will be just 1 , (which I have entered and been told that this was the correct answer). Or did I misread the n L as L for some reason the first time around, and you had the correct limit to begin with? Now I'm just confused, but at least I have the correct answer now. :)
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Hey, that was my mistake i just figured it out a minute before. And there were 6 solvers already.
Anyways I've corrected it.
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@Sanjeet Raria – O.k., great. I'm glad to know my eyesight hadn't failed me. :) It's funny that there were 6 solvers already when the limit before your edit would have been 0 instead of 1; they probably just guessed 1 since that is so often the answer to limit questions.
I'll try and get my solution posted later when I have more time. Megh's solution is clever, but I'm still trying to figure out if it is correct.
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@Brian Charlesworth – Mee too sir, about Megh's solution. Thanks.
I appreciate your patience. Thank you. P.S but please do right your solution there sir.
I've just shared the kind of question I'm talking about
The first part of our limit is written as the geometric mean of four terms which are (x+3),(x+5),(x+7) and (x+9). As x tends to infinity we get, (x+3)=(x+5)=(x+7)=(x+9). That's why we can rewrite the given geometric mean as the arithematic mean of those four terms. from here we get that part of our limit as (x+6). putting this value in the original question(x+6-x), we get answer 6
Thats Ingenious approach! never thought that way . deserves an upvote
This is an incredible way of attack!
Outstanding!
Let
F(X)=x^1/4 Now it takes as an argument the thing (X+3)(X+5)(X+7)(X+9)=T Now as X goes to infinity The function F(T)=something Let's approximate it T = X^4+ 24X^3+ lower powers Now derivative of F Is 1/4x^(3/4)=z Note let's see T go up to x^4 So F reaches X Now here the derivative is z(x^4) And for this rate of change next we multiply the increment Of x with the derivative (1/4 1/x^3) 24x^3=6 So the increment after the function reaches X is 6
So answer is( X+6)-X=6
We use the first order taylor expansion of ( 1 + y ) α as y → 0 : ( 1 + y ) α = 1 + α y + y 2 M α ( y ) , where M α ( x ) is a function bounded around 0 . Let f ( x ) be the expression which limit we are looking for. Factoring the whole expression by x and applying the formula above gives us : f ( x ) = x ( k = 1 ∏ 4 ( 1 + x 2 k + 1 ) 1 / 4 − 1 ) = x ( k = 1 ∏ 4 ( 1 + 4 x ( 2 k + 1 ) + x 2 ( 2 k + 1 ) 2 M 1 / 4 ( x 2 k + 1 ) ) − 1 ) = x ( 1 + 4 x 1 k = 1 ∑ 3 ( 2 k + 1 ) + x 2 1 M ( x ) − 1 ) = 4 2 4 + x 1 M ( x ) , M ( x ) being a function bounded for x → ∞ . We therefore have the result : 4 2 4 = 6
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We can write the expression under limit as, x 1 ( ( 1 + x 3 ) ( 1 + x 5 ) ( 1 + x 7 ) ( 1 + x 9 ) ) 4 1 − 1 Now putting x 1 = y so that as x → ∞ , y → 0 We get, L = y → 0 lim y ( ( 1 + 3 y ) ( 1 + 5 y ) ( 1 + 7 y ) ( 1 + 9 y ) ) 4 1 − 1 The limit has now transformed to 0 0 form, thereby giving way to a smooth application of L' Hospital to get to the final result.
After the first differentiation of the numerator & denominator, we can put the limits. There is no need to differentiate further as the expression will not result in any of the indeterminate forms.
I'm jumping the differentiation stage which is easy.
We've the final result,
L = 1 4 1 ( 1 ) 4 1 • ( 9 • 1 + 7 • 1 + 5 • 1 + 3 • 1 ) = 6