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Calculus Level 1

lim x 1 x 15 1 x 10 1 = ? \large \displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} \dfrac{x^{15}-1}{x^{10}-1}= \, ?


The answer is 1.5.

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6 solutions

Erlend Abrahamsen
Feb 16, 2016

Substituting a = x 5 a=x^5 we have

x 15 1 x 10 1 = a 3 1 a 2 1 = ( a 1 ) ( a 2 + a + 1 ) ( a + 1 ) ( a 1 ) = a 2 + a + 1 a + 1 \frac{x^{15}-1}{x^{10}-1}=\frac{a^3-1}{a^2-1}=\frac{(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}{(a+1)(a-1)}=\frac{a^2+a+1}{a+1}

So

lim x 1 x 15 1 x 10 1 = lim x 1 x 10 + x 5 + 1 x 5 + 1 = 3 2 \lim_{x \to 1} \frac{x^{15}-1}{x^{10}-1}=\lim_{x \to 1} \frac{x^{10}+x^5+1}{x^5+1}=\boxed { \frac{3}{2} }

Very nice and simple solution!

Prasit Sarapee - 5 years, 3 months ago

Doesn't your solution presuppose x can't be 1?

Tim Peacock - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Yeh, but we are not evaluating at x=1 we are taking the limit, which means that x is "almost" 1.

Erlend Abrahamsen - 5 years, 2 months ago
Nihar Mahajan
Feb 16, 2016

Using L'Hôpital's Rule ,

lim x 1 x 15 1 x 10 1 = lim x 1 15 x 14 10 x 9 = 15 10 = 1.5 \lim_{x\rightarrow 1} \dfrac{x^{15}-1}{x^{10}-1} =\lim_{x\rightarrow 1} \dfrac{15x^{14}}{10x^{9}} = \dfrac{15}{10} = \boxed{1.5}

Moderator note:

Simple standard approach.

One should remember to (demonstrate that they) check we have an indeterminate form before applying L'hopital.

You could always include a link for these rules in your solution for the viewers. Anyway, nice solution. Upvoted.

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago
Kattos Kattos
Feb 21, 2016

I will give a complicated solution! The numerator is the product of all cyclotomic polynomials which divide 15 and the denominator is all cyclotomic polynomias F d F_d where d divides 10. So we get F 3 F 15 F 2 F 10 \frac{ F_3 F_{15}} {F_2 F_{10}} . But F p ( 1 ) = p F_p(1) =p if p is prime and 1 otherwise. So we get 3 2 \frac{3}{2} .

I loved this solution! (+1)

Aareyan Manzoor - 5 years, 3 months ago
Aditya Kushwaha
Feb 17, 2016

LHopitals rule

Can you explain in full?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 3 months ago

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When you have a non-determinated form like "0/0" you can derive numerator and denominator the limit will remain the same. This is De l'Hopital rule.

Angelo De Luca - 5 years, 3 months ago

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So for this particular problem as x-->0, L'Hôpital's rule would not apply because there is no indeterminate form?

Scott Morris - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Scott Morris That's correct. The limit as x --> 0 would evalute to -1/-1 or just 1. If you applied L'Hopitals rule your answer would be zero, which is incorrect.

Ahern Nelson - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Ahern Nelson Thanks, Ahern Nelson

Scott Morris - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Scott Morris Sorry I disagree when X->1 the limit goes to a 0/0 form than I can apply de l'Hopital

Angelo De Luca - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Angelo De Luca Are we talking about the sa e exercise? No doubt for me

Angelo De Luca - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Angelo De Luca The limit si for X->1 and the function is (x^15-1)/(x^10-1) than (1-1)/(1-1) = 0/0 indeterminate form therefore You can apply de l'Hopital

Angelo De Luca - 5 years, 3 months ago
汶良 林
Mar 28, 2016

Razik Ridzuan
Mar 27, 2016

L'Hopital's rule will help in solving this question..

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