Limits And The Greatest Integer Function

Calculus Level 2

lim x 0 ( sin x ) ( tan x ) x 2 = ? \large \lim_{x \to 0} \, \left \lfloor \dfrac{(\sin x) (\tan x)}{x^2} \right \rfloor = \ ?

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Using the following limit lim x 0 sin x x = 1 \displaystyle \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x }{x}=1 We have to modify the expression lim x 0 sin x tan x x 2 = lim x 0 sin x sin x cos x x 2 = lim x 0 ( sin x ) 2 x 2 cos x = lim x 0 sin x x sin x x 1 cos x = 1 \displaystyle \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x \cdot \tan x}{x^2} =\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x \cdot \frac{\sin x}{\cos x}}{x^2} =\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{(\sin x)^2 }{x^2\cdot \cos x} =\\ \displaystyle \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x}\cdot \frac{\sin x}{x} \cdot \frac{1}{\cos x} = 1

And where have you applied the floor function??

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I think he didn't need to.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Coincidently.... ;-)

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Yeah, true.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Mehul Arora He made an assumption: lim x 0 f ( x ) = lim x 0 f ( x ) \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\lfloor f(x)\rfloor=\lfloor~\lim_{x\rightarrow0}f(x)~\rfloor which is not always true!!

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Uh, honestly, I'm learning limits, so I'd probably only understand lke 25% of what you say :P

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

@Rishabh Jain When is it not true?

prashant sharma - 3 years, 8 months ago

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@Prashant Sharma Check it for floor(sinx/x) at x tending to 0

Aanjaneya Pandey - 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Your solution is wrong.

asad bhai - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Why do you think so?

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 3 months ago

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floor function and limits cannot be interchanged.

think of this

lim x 0 1 x \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\left \lfloor 1-x \right \rfloor

Parker Zhang - 5 years, 3 months ago

the main problem here is that sinx/x is slightly less than one .... so square of it is also slightly less than one and 1/cosx is slightly greater than one .... so we cant say anything about their product being greater or less than 1 .

Aditya Sai - 5 years, 3 months ago

How is this solution getting up votes?

Shourya Pandey - 5 years ago

Floor of limit of sin x/x is 0 not 1 I would request brilliant staff to help me

Prajwal Krishna - 4 years, 7 months ago

You are missing the floor function!!

Shubham Bhargava - 4 years ago

Solution is wrong because you did not show that limiting value is grater than one.

prashant sharma - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Didn’t he just use the product rule?

jason carlson - 2 years, 5 months ago

According to wolframalpha, the solution turned out to be 1.

Metallic Silver - 6 months, 3 weeks ago

actually s i n x = x x 3 / 3 ! + . . . . sinx=x-x^3/3!+.... and t a n x = x + x 3 / 3 + . . . . tanx=x+x^3/3+.... therefore s i n x × t a n x = x 2 + x 4 / 3 ! + . . . . sinx \times tanx=x^2+x^4/3!+.... therefore s i n x × t a n x sinx \times tanx is greater 1 when x tends to 0

Ashish Menon
Mar 7, 2016

Observing the graph, we get the answer 1 1 . _\square

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Aditya Sai
Feb 6, 2016

the only confusion in this problem is whether the equation sin(x)/x * tan(x)/x is slightly greater or less than one .... so we compare at what rate the both equations(sinx/x , tanx/x) tend to 1 . sinx/x applying l'hopital rule we get cosx ,which means that the equation is tending to one at the rate cosx , similarly for tanx/x we get sec^2(x) . so in the product of both the equations .... both tending to 1 but one along cosx , and other along sec^2(x), gives us sec(x) which is always greater than one(which is bigger than rate of x) ,hence the product is slightly greater than 1 .

Its slightly greater than one...agreed but there is a greatest integer function present there which makes the answer one

Pratik Parikh - 5 years, 3 months ago

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yep ... thats what i was telling .... we have a confusion between the answer being 1 or 0 s0 i proved it to be one

Aditya Sai - 5 years, 3 months ago
Deepak Kumar
Feb 4, 2016

Use of expansion of sinx and tanx works here as we need to apply floor

Harsh Poonia
Apr 13, 2020

Use Maclaurin Expansion for sin x \sin x and tan x . \tan x. sin x = x x 3 3 ! + x 5 5 ! \sin x = x-\dfrac{x^3}{3!}+\dfrac{x^5}{5!} - \cdots tan x = x + x 3 3 + 2 x 5 15 + \tan x = x+\dfrac{x^3}{3}+\dfrac{2x^5}{15} + \cdots So sin x tan x x 2 1 + x 2 6 1 + \dfrac{\sin x \tan x}{x^2} \approx 1+\dfrac{x^2}{6} \rightarrow 1^{+} . So the floor of this limit is 1.

Yoon Ho Seol
May 21, 2016

My method is crude but very simple and visual. At x -> 0, sinX,tanX ~~x(similar to). If we imagine an infinitely narrow observation, sinX & tanX both looks like what we see in y=x graph. So using this method, lim x->0, sinXtanX/x^2 = x^2/x^2 = 1.

Btw tanX comes to have similar property with sinX because cosX finds the look of y=1 constant graph.

Tony Ma
Apr 27, 2018

By some calculus, sin x tan x x 2 > 1 x ( π 6 , π 6 ) \frac{\sin x\tan x}{x^2}>1\forall x\in(-\frac{\pi}{6},\frac{\pi}{6}) \ { 0 0 }, then use squeeze lemma to get limit =1

Robert DeLisle
Jun 2, 2017

Form 0/0. Apply L'Hopital's rule. Still 0/0 apply it again. Get 2/2 = 1.

With a bit of moderately heavy lifting with the product rule....

After first application it is Limit x->0 (sin(x) + sec(x)tan(x))/2x.

After second application it is Limit x->0 (cos(x) + sec^3(x) + sec(x)tan*2(x)}/2.

This evaluates straightforwardly to (1 + 1 + 0) /2 = 1

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