1. a box containing 2 gold coins,
2. a box containing 2 silver coins,
3. a box containing 1 gold coin and 1 silver coin.
After choosing a box at random and picking out one coin, you withdrew a gold coin. If the chances that the other coin in the box is gold can be represented as b a where a and b are co-prime, find the value of a + b .
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Great solution. I wonder how many thought the chances were 2 1 .
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Haha, (raises hand). Yeah, I had forgotten about Baye's Theorem. :D
Yeah, I also thought it is 0.5. Poor me.....Combinatorics always defeats me!!
I know that feeling.
cant we say that the case given in the question will only be possible if the person picks the 1st box....thus implying that the probability is 1/3?
It's standard conditional probability. The chances of picking the box with 2 gold coins is 1/3. The chances of picking a gold coin if you picked the box with two gold coins is 1. So the probably of those two events is 1/3 * 1 = 1/3.
The chances of picking a gold coin from an unknown box is 3/6 = 1/2.
So if A = P(picked the box with 2 gold coins) and B = P(picked a gold coin from a random box), we have P(A|B) = (1/3)/(1/2) = 1/3*2 = 2/3.
Isn't the probability of the 2nd coin being gold same as the probability of choosing box 3.?
With reference to the above solution,I have picked up a gold coin at random from box 1 or 3. 2nd one will be gold if random selection was box one or silver if the random selection was box 3. so, the probability is 1in 2 and the answer is 3.
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The problem states that "given you picked a gold coin". If you pick box 3, you only have half probability to pick up a gold coin, while if you pick box 1, you will always pick up a gold coin. Thus box 1 is chosen 2/3 of the times you pick up a gold coin, not 1/2 as you claimed.
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I am confused as to the phrasing of the question I guess- but the question explicitly states that you choose a box, then you pick a gold coin. So yes, you have chosen gold, it is given, but the box choosing seems to be a more important factor here. My logic is this (and please point out why it is flawed)- You chose either box 1 (gold and gold) or box 3 (gold and silver). I believe we can agree that box 2 (silver and silver) has no real place here. So essentially you chose one of two boxes. The probability for choosing either box is .5. Once you have chosen a box, the remaining thing that happens is no longer in your control. So if you chose box 1 then you get another gold. If you chose box 3 then you get a silver. It's not as though you have control once the box has been chosen. And since no gold coin differs from the other it doesn't matter which gold coin you choose, right? I hope that all makes sense.
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@Sam Ginzburg – Yes, I can see that. But your claim that you don't have any control is false. If you choose box 3 and you pick up a silver coin, you throw away that event and restart the experiment, because you're told that you must pick up a gold coin.
This solutions is completely incorrect you have only one box with either silver coin or gold coin since you have have taken a gold coin before. So solution is 1/2. I do not know who approves these solutions.
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This solution is completely correct. Just because it uses a proven theorem you either don't know about or don't approve of doesn't mean it isn't correct.
I did this by drawing a tree diagram.
Box 1 must be G1 and G2
Box 2 must be S1 and S2
Box3 can be G1 and S1; or S1 and G1
P ( G 2 ∣ G 1 ) = P ( G 1 ) P ( G 1 a n d G 2 ) = 2 1 3 1 = 3 2
a + b = 2 + 3 = 5
Obviously, it's twice as likely that you'll have picked the box with 2 gold coins, so the probability is that it's the one with 2 gold coins is x + 2 x 2 x ⟹ 3 2 ⟹ 5 .
now since a gold coin has popped out the second box is ruled out , the left ones are first one and the second one .. now since out of these 4 coins[two boxes] one has been picked up and it is gold the left ones are 2 GOLD and 1 SILVER .. so the probability is 2/3.. => 5
The question is deceptive, in the good way! There is only one box that contains 2 gold coins. So what we're really after is: given that we just picked a gold coin, what is the probability we picked the box with 2 gold coins? Plugging this into Bayes theorem quickly produces the answer.
The box containing 2 silver coins is of no use. Leaving that we have 4 coins out of which 3 are gold and 1 is silver. Since the picked one is a gold coin we are left with 3 coins out of which 2 are gold. Thus the probability is 2 out of 3.
use bayes theorem to find the probability of the coin coming from the box having 2 gold coins that comes out to be 2/3 then, since and b are coprime, a= 2 , b= 3, therefore a+b = 5
I did it using Bayes' theorem
we see the second box dosent contai any gold coin so we neglect it ... now probability of selecting first box from three boxes is 1/3 and if e draw one coin then probability of other coin be gold =1/1 so total probability =1/3 1/1 same case goes with 3box where we have 1/3 1+1/3*0 zero case suggest gold coin has been picked up and remaining is silver so probability of gold is zero so total probability =1/3+1/3=2/3 a=2 b=3 so a+b=5
its 1/3*1/1 and not 1/31/1
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We can throw out the box with silver coins. Label the gold coins in box 1 as G 1 A and G 1 B and the gold coin in box 3 as G 3 . You have picked one of those coins at random; the probability that you picked a specific gold coin is equal for each of the coins. In 2 of the cases, G 1 A and G 1 B , the other coin ( G 1 B and G 1 A respectively) is gold. Only if you pick G 3 would the other coin in the box be silver. Thus, the probability that the other coin is gold is equal to 3 2 , so A = 2 and B = 3 and A + B = 5