Magnetism and Torque

A ring of mass m m and carrying current i i is placed in x y xy plane :
x 2 + y 2 = r 2 x^{2}+y^{2}=r^{2}
A magnetic field of B = B 0 ( 2 i 3 j + 5 k ) \vec{B}=B_{0}(2\vec{i}-3\vec{j}+5\vec{k}) is introduced in the region.
If the ring can rotate about the axis y = x y=x only , then find its initial angular acceleration ( α \alpha )
If the answer comes in the form α = β B 0 i m \alpha=\beta\frac{B_{0}i}{m}

Type your answer as β \beta
Details and Assumptions
1) i , j , k \vec{i}, \vec{j},\vec{k} are unit vectors along x , y , z x,y,z axis respectively.
2) Completely ignore gravity.

The problem is from my Physics book.


The answer is 22.214.

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3 solutions

Karan Chatrath
Aug 6, 2020

Consider a point on the ring with coordinates:

r = ( R cos θ , R sin θ , 0 ) \vec{r} = (R\cos{\theta},R\sin{\theta},0)

The arc length element is:

d r = ( R d θ sin θ , R d θ cos θ , 0 ) d\vec{r} = (-R \ d\theta \ \sin{\theta},R \ d\theta \ \cos{\theta},0)

The magnetic force on the this elementary arc length is:

d F = i ( d r × B ) d\vec{F} = i (d\vec{r} \times \vec{B})

Now consider the axis. It has a unit vector:

a ^ = ( 1 2 , 1 2 , 0 ) \hat{a} = \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},0\right)

Now, a vector perpendicular to the axis directed from the axis to the elementary arc length is:

p = r ( r a ^ ) a ^ \vec{p} = \vec{r} - \left(\vec{r} \cdot \hat{a}\right) \hat{a}

The reader may try to derive the above expression by themselves. Finally, the elementary torque due to the elementary force about the axis is:

d τ = p × d F d\vec{\tau} = \vec{p} \times d\vec{F}

Plugging in all expressions and simplifying, one gets:

d τ = ( ( B o R 2 i ( cos ( 2 θ ) + 5 sin ( 2 θ ) 5 ) 4 ) i ^ + ( B o R 2 i ( cos ( 2 θ ) + 5 sin ( 2 θ ) 5 ) 4 ) j ^ + ( 5 B o R 2 i cos ( 2 θ ) 2 ) k ^ ) d θ d\vec{\tau} = \left(\left(-\frac{B_oR^2i(\cos(2 \theta) + 5\sin(2 \theta) - 5)}{4}\right) \ \hat{i} + \left(-\frac{B_oR^2i(\cos(2 \theta) + 5\sin(2 \theta) - 5)}{4}\right) \ \hat{j} + \left(\frac{5B_oR^2i\cos(2\theta)}{2}\right) \ \hat{k}\right)d\theta

Integrating the above:

τ = ( 5 π B o R 2 i 2 ) ( i ^ + j ^ ) \vec{\tau} = \left(\frac{5\pi B_o R^2i}{2}\right) \left(\hat{i} + \hat{j}\right)

So one can see that the net torque is along the a ^ \hat{a} direction only. The resultant torque is:

τ = 5 π B o R 2 i 2 \lvert \vec{\tau} \rvert = \frac{5\pi B_o R^2i}{\sqrt{2}}

The angular acceleration about this axis is:

α = 2 τ m R 2 \alpha = \frac{2\lvert \vec{\tau} \rvert}{mR^2} α = ( 5 π 2 ) B o i m \implies \alpha = \left(5\pi \sqrt{2}\right) \frac{B_o i}{m} β = 5 π 2 \implies \boxed{\beta = 5\pi \sqrt{2}}

@Lil Doug Please tell me if you understand this. Look at the diagrams in the order of numbering ((1),(2) and (3)).

Karan Chatrath - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Karan Chatrath yes I now I completely understood.
By the way, why we are so much interested in B A \vec{BA}

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

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This is because you need a vector perpendicular to the axis to calculate any torque about it. This entire calculation is to find that perpendicular vector to the axis.

Karan Chatrath - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath okay! Thanks. What are the limits when you integrated it?

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Talulah Riley 0 to 2 π 2\pi . The ring is parameterised in polar coordinates.

Karan Chatrath - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath oh I thought that -π/4 to +5π/4.
Okay thanks for explaining.
By the way my physics teacher solved this problem using the concept of magnetic moment. Do you know that.
If you are interested I will show you the solution.

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

@Karan Chatrath check my latest problem.
It is reported by Alak sir.

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

@Karan Chatrath can you post the analytical solution of this problemhttps://brilliant.org/problems/magnetism-exercise-09-08-2020/
Thanks in advance

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

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Unfortunately, for a few days from now, I will not be able to post any solutions. Also, I will have limited access to my notifications as well, in the coming days.

Karan Chatrath - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Karan Chatrath i want to say this, you just back in 8 days. I thought that you will not upload solutions till 2-3 months.

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 4 weeks ago

Let us consider a point on the ring with position vector r = r ( i ^ cos θ j ^ sin θ ) \vec r=r(\hat i \cos \theta-\hat j \sin \theta)

The unit vector along the axis of rotation is u ^ = 1 2 ( i ^ + j ^ ) \hat u=\dfrac {1}{\sqrt 2 }(\hat i+\hat j)

Force of magnetic field on an element of length d l = r d θ dl=rd\theta at that point is

d F = i d l × B d\vec F=id\vec l\times \vec B

Moment of this force on that element about the origin is

d N = r × d F d\vec N=\vec r\times d\vec F

So, moment of the force about the given axis is

d N a x i s = u ^ . d N dN_{axis}=\hat u. d\vec N .

Finally, d l = d α × r d\vec l=\vec {dα}\times \vec r

After performing all calculations, we get

d N a x i s = 1 2 ( 2 + sin 2 θ + 5 sin θ cos θ ) dN_{axis}=\dfrac {1}{\sqrt 2 }(2+\sin^2 \theta+5\sin \theta\cos \theta)

Integrating within the limits 0 0 to 2 π , we obtain

N a x i s = 5 π 2 i r 2 B 0 N_{axis}=\dfrac {5π}{\sqrt 2 }ir^2B_0

So the equation of motion of the ring is

1 2 m r 2 α = 5 π 2 i r 2 B 0 \dfrac 12 mr^2α=\dfrac {5π}{\sqrt 2 }ir^2B_0

α = 5 2 π × i B 0 m \implies α=5\sqrt 2π\times \dfrac {iB_0}{m}

Therefore β = 5 2 π 22.214 β=5\sqrt 2π\approx \boxed {22.214} .

Steven Chase
Aug 5, 2020

This was a fun one. I have attached some heavily commented solution code below.

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import math

Num = 10**6   # spatial resolution parameter

R = 1.0    # radius
B0 = 1.0   # mag flux density multiplier
i = 1.0    # current
m = 1.0    # loop mass

Bx = 2.0*B0   # magnetic flux density components
By = -3.0*B0
Bz = 5.0*B0

dtheta = 2.0*math.pi/Num   # incremental theta

#########################################

ux = 1.0/math.sqrt(2.0)   # unit vector along rotation axis
uy = 1.0/math.sqrt(2.0)
uz = 0.0

I = 0.5*m*(R**2.0)  # loop moment of inertia

#########################################

Tx = 0.0    # initialize torque vector
Ty = 0.0    # torque calculated with respect to principal axes x,y,z
Tz = 0.0

theta = 0.0

while theta <= 2.0*math.pi:   # integrate over loop

    x = R*math.cos(theta)   # spatial coordinates on loop
    y = R*math.sin(theta)
    z = 0.0

    dx = -R*math.sin(theta) * dtheta  # incremental changes in spatial coord
    dy = R*math.cos(theta) * dtheta   # components of dL vector
    dz = 0.0

    dFx = i*(dy*Bz - dz*By)      # force on infinitesimal length of loop
    dFy = i*(-(dx*Bz - dz*Bx))   # dF = i * (dL cross B)
    dFz = i*(dx*By - dy*Bx)

    dTx = y*dFz - z*dFy         # torque on infinitesimal length of loop
    dTy = -(x*dFz - z*dFx)      # dT = (position vec) cross dF
    dTz = x*dFy - y*dFx

    Tx = Tx + dTx  # update torque
    Ty = Ty + dTy
    Tz = Tz + dTz

    theta = theta + dtheta

#########################################

Tproj = Tx*ux + Ty*uy + Tz*uz   # find projection of torque vector......
                                # onto rotation axis


alpha = Tproj/I   # rotational Newton's 2nd Law to find ang acc

print Num
print alpha

# Print results

#>>> 
#10000
#22.2144146908
#>>> ================================ RESTART ================================
#>>> 
#100000
#22.2145924061
#>>> ================================ RESTART ================================
#>>> 
#1000000
#22.2144324623
#>>> 

@Steven Chase Thanks for the solution.
Is there a way to solve it analytically?

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

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I'm sure there is. You can just apply the same concepts to your hand analysis

Steven Chase - 10 months, 1 week ago

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@Steven Chase I have posted a problem right now.
I have little bit doubt with that problem. Post a solution
Thanks in advance. Bye

Talulah Riley - 10 months, 1 week ago

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