It can be shown that for any positive real number r , the infinitely nested radical expression r + r + r + ⋯ is a finite positive number. Find x such that x + x + x + … = 1 7 .
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We have the same easy solution
May I add that x + 17 = 289 and x = 272 to make the solution complete thanks.
omg this post made me understand instead of the ones above :P
i did the same way
Given that:
x + x + x + . . . = 1 7
It can be written that:
x + 1 7 = 1 7
Squaring both sides, we get that:
x + 1 7 = 2 8 9 ⇒ x = 2 8 9 − 1 7 = 2 7 2
I did it exactly the same way.
how can the question be written as sqroot(x + 17)=17 ? is there a formula?
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x + x + x + ⋅ = 1 7 x + x + x + ⋯ = 1 7 Asad Jawaid As you can see,the blue part is exactly the same as x + x + ⋯ which we know is equal to 1 7 .So we can substitute it 17 in place of the nested radical and get x + 1 7 = 1 7 .Hope that helps :-)
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OHHHHHHH thanks:D
Let y = x + x + x + … . We can write this as y = x + y . Squaring both sides , we get y 2 = x + y . Rearranging the terms , we get the quadratic in y as y 2 − y − x = 0 . Applying the quadratic formula , we get y = 2 1 ± 1 + 4 x . We are given the value of the nested radical as 17 ,i.e. y = 1 7 .Therefore , 2 1 ± 1 + 4 x = 1 7
⇒ 1 ± 1 + 4 x = 3 4 ⇒ ± 1 + 4 x = 3 3
Again squaring both sides , we get 1 + 4 x = 1 0 8 9
⇒ 4 x = 1 0 8 8 ⇒ x = 2 7 2
From the original equation $$\sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \dotsb}}} = 17,$$ we square both sides to get $$x + \sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \dotsb}}} = 289.$$ Subtracting both sides by x we have $$\sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \sqrt{x + \dotsb}}} = 289 - x.$$ The left side of the equation is equal to 1 7 from the first equation so that 2 8 9 − x = 1 7 from which we get x = 2 7 2 .
I finally understood after reading this solution, thank you! But it blows my mind how you can manipulate the equation and still have it equal the same thing! Infinity defies all logic.
As this is infinitely nested, all x + x + . . . are equal to 17, so we will substitute the value at the top level.
n = 1 7
x + n = n
x + n = n 2
x + 1 7 = 2 8 9
x = 2 7 2
First square the equation: x + x + x + . . . = 2 8 9 . We notice that the infinite x + x + . . . = 1 7 , so our new equation becomes
x + 1 7 = 2 8 9 .
Then, this implies that x = 2 7 2
To begin with, note that any infinitely nested radical of the type r + r + r + … = 2 1 ( 1 + 1 + 4 n ) .
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Thus, we have
2 1 ( 1 + 1 + 4 x ) = 1 7 ⇒ 1 + 4 x = 3 3 ⇒ 1 + 4 x = 1 0 8 9 ⇒
⇒ 4 x = 1 0 8 8 ⇒ x = 2 7 2
Therefore, for the given equation to be equal to 1 7 , x needs to be 2 7 2 .
What is n ? How is it related to r ?
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Oops, wrong letter. Consider n = r here, I mixed the letters up trying to use the original nested radical. Thanks Calvin.
Also, it's "find", not "fine".
√(x+√(x+√(x+...)))=17 square both side
x+17=289
x=272
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When we normally see any kind of radical problem our instincts are to isolate and raise the radical to its respective power. In this case we can square both sides to obtain x + x + x + ⋯ = 2 8 9 . Substituting in x + x + ⋯ = 1 7 we find that the answer is 2 7 2