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Algebra Level 5

Consider all pairs of non-singular matrices ( A , B ) (A, B) such that A B = B A 4 AB = BA^4 and B 6 = I B^6 = I .

What is the minimum positive integer value of p p , such that A p A^p is always the identity matrix?

Bonus: Generalize your answer.


The answer is 4095.

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1 solution

Sumanth R Hegde
Feb 17, 2017

The most important property of matrices that will be used in this solution again and again is associative property of multiplication of matrices

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p = m n 1 \displaystyle \boxed {p = m^n -1 } .

For m = 4 , n = 6 m = 4, n=6 ...We get p = 4095 \displaystyle \color{#D61F06}{p = 4095}

( Note :I have shown p = m n 1 p =m^n -1 is a solution . However, to show that it is the minimum value, one would have to check the factors of m n 1 m^n -1 to rule out possibility of any other value satisfying the given criteria)

Why can't we have p = 8190?

What you have shown here is that p = m n 1 p = m^n -1 would work, but not that this is the only number that would work.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Sorry, edited.

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years, 3 months ago

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This question is interesting, but I have some concerns about the phrasing / validity.

  1. How do we know that is the minimum value? Why does no smaller value work?

  2. Also, I believe you want the minimum positive value (otherwise 0 would work). In this case, notice that the general formula doesn't apply for m = 1 m = 1 or n = 0 n = 0 .
    I was looking at these cases when trying to figure out why we have a minimum, and it's not immediately obvious that's true, esp for specific matrices. It might be true "over all pairs of matrices that satisfy the condition". (IE the matrices A = B = I A = B = I satisfy the condition that A B = B A 4 , B 6 = I AB = BA^4, B^6 = I , but the minimum value of A n = I A^n = I would be n = 1 n =1 ).

  3. It seems like you want them to be square matrices.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Calvin Lin 1) Actually I think there are a number of matrices that satisfy the condition, hence it is the minimum value that would work for all these values . I think it would be better if I edit it to ' Minimum positive p p that would work for all matrices A satisfying the criteria ' ,right??

2) yes positive value. Sorry for that

3)Yes. I have mentioned 'Non singular matrices '

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Sumanth R Hegde Great. I've edited the problem to reflect this.

Note: The solution is still incomplete, in that it shows that 4095 works, but hasn't shown that no smaller value would work.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Calvin Lin I agree . The only other way I see would be that 4095 = x y , ( x , y £ N , x , y > 1 ) 4095 = xy, ( x,y £ N, x,y>1 ) and A x = I A^x = I . If this is true then p is not the minimum value. Instead of going about seeing if all factors of 4095 4095 work or not, I do not know what else to do.P perhaps you could suggest a better way Sir??

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Sumanth R Hegde I checked most factors.. I think 4095 is the smallest number

Anirudh Chandramouli - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Anirudh Chandramouli Thanks for taking the trouble. I have added a note to throw light upom the same

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years, 3 months ago

@Sumanth R Hegde Right, I don't think that there is an easy way to prove this, other than finding matrices as counter examples.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

@Sumanth R Hegde image is not available. Plzz upload it again

Abhinav Shripad - 1 year, 4 months ago

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