Maximum

Algebra Level 2

a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 \large a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5

If a , b , c , d a, b, c, d are real numbers such that a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 = 16 a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4=16 , find the maximum value of the expression above.


The answer is 32.

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1 solution

Chew-Seong Cheong
Sep 27, 2017

Using Hölder's inequality as follows:

a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 1 4 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 1 4 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 1 4 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 1 4 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 1 4 = ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 5 4 = 1 6 5 4 = 32 \begin{aligned} a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5 & \le \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 14 \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 14 \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 14 \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 14 \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 14 \\ & = \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 54 = 16^\frac 54 = \boxed{32} \end{aligned}

Equality occurs when ( a , b , c , d ) = ( 0 , 0 , 0 , 2 ) (a,b,c,d) = (0,0,0,2) .

What's wrong in this?

( a 5 ) 4 5 ( b 5 ) 4 5 ( c 5 ) 4 5 ( d 5 ) 4 5 4 ( a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 4 ) 4 5 \dfrac{(a^5)^{\frac{4}{5}}(b^5)^{\frac{4}{5}}(c^5)^{\frac{4}{5}}(d^5)^{\frac{4}{5}}}{4} \geq (\dfrac{a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5}{4})^{\frac{4}{5}}

Solving this we get Max as 2 9 2 2^{\frac{9}{2}}

Md Junaid - 3 years, 8 months ago

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I am also thinking on the same path

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 8 months ago

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See my reply above.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 8 months ago

Can you get values of a , b , c , d a, b, c, d such that the LHS = = RHS? See for a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 = ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 5 4 a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5 = \left(a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4\right)^\frac 54 , the vaues are ( 0 , 0 , 0 , 2 ) (0,0,0,2) .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 8 months ago

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But sir, (0,0,0,2) is satisfying the LHS and RHS a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 = ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + d 4 ) 5 4 a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5 = (a^4+b^4+c^4+d^4)^{\dfrac{5}{4}}

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 8 months ago

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@Md Zuhair My solution is valid because, there is ( a , b , c , d ) (a, b, c, d) satisfying a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 = 32 a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5 = 32 . You cannot find ( a , b , c , d ) (a, b, c, d) satisfying a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 = 2 9 2 a^5+b^5+c^5+d^5 = 2^\frac 92 , therefore, the solution is not valid.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 8 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong O, Now i got it sir. Thanks :)

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 8 months ago

Can the value of 32 be obtained?

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks, I have added in the solution.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Wrong. When a = b = c = d a=b=c=d , then the value of a 5 + b 5 + c 5 + d 5 a^5 + b^5 + c^5 + d^5 is 16 2 16\sqrt2 , not 32.

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 8 months ago

The value of 32 is obtained when (a,b,c,d) is a permutation of (2,0,0,0)?

Linkin Duck - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Yes, I will fill that in.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 8 months ago

Why the sum of exponent on the right hand side does not equal to 1? Does holder inequalities still work?

Alfa Claresta - 3 years, 5 months ago

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You are right. I need to recheck this. Thanks.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 5 months ago

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I'm waiting for your clarification

Alfa Claresta - 3 years, 5 months ago

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