Minimising can be Difficult!

Algebra Level 5

For real numbers x , y , z x,y,z , subject to x + y + z > 6 x+y+z>6 and

x 2 + y 2 + z 2 x y z = ( x + y ) ( y + z ) ( z + x ) 8 ( x y + y z + z x ) , x^2+y^2+z^2-xyz=(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)-8(xy+yz+zx),

what is the minimum value of x y + y z + z x xy+yz+zx ?


The answer is 24.

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2 solutions

Michael Ng
Jan 25, 2015

Let x + y + z = A , x y + y z + z x = B x+y+z=A, xy+yz+zx=B for brevity. Using the identity ( x + y ) ( y + z ) ( z + x ) + x y z = ( x + y + z ) ( x y + y z + z x ) (x+y)(y+z)(z+x)+xyz =(x+y+z)(xy+yz+zx) we can rearrange to give

A 2 = A B 6 B B = A 2 A 6 A^2=AB - 6B \implies B = \frac{A^2}{A-6}

We also know that

A 2 24 A + 144 ( A 12 ) 2 0 A 2 24 ( A 6 ) A^2-24A+144\geq (A-12)^2\geq 0 \implies A^2 \geq 24(A-6)

But we are given that A > 6 A>6 so we can divide through by A 6 A-6 to give

A 2 A 6 24 B 24 \frac{A^2}{A-6}\geq 24 \implies B \geq 24

Also note that this minimum is achieved when x = 0 , y = 2 ( 3 + 3 ) , z = 2 ( 3 3 ) x=0, y=2(\sqrt{3}+3), z=2(\sqrt{3}-3) so the answer is 24 \boxed{24} .

Very nice use of the identity ( x + y ) ( y + z ) ( z + x ) + x y z = ( x + y + z ) ( x y + y z + z x ) (x+y)(y+z)(z+x)+xyz = (x+y+z)(xy+yz+zx) :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 4 months ago

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2^89 / 89 can you find the remainder??

Sooraj Mohan - 6 years, 4 months ago

W h y n o t s i m p l y A 2 24 A + 144 = 0 A 2 A 6 = 24 = B , a 6 > 0 ? ? How to find values of x, y, z? How can we say that it is the minimum? P l e a s e h e l p . Why~not ~simply~A^2-24A+144=0\\ \implies~~\dfrac{A^2}{A-6}=24=B,~\because a-6>0~ ??\\\text{How to find values of x, y, z? How can we say that it is the minimum?}~\\ Please~ help.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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I'm not sure if this answers your question, but the condition that you found ( a 6 > 0 a-6>0 ) is simply a condition for the expression to be valid; it says nothing about the minimum value.

The quadratic inequality that I used is to show that B 24 B\geq 24 . But why would that mean that 24 24 is the minimum? It's because this tells us that no value of B B can be less than 24 24 , and since it is achievable (as there exist x , y , z x,y,z that work), it must be the minimum.

In fact the values of x , y , z x,y,z are not unique; I just gave them as an example so that A = 12 , B = 24 A=12, B=24 . Hope this helps :)

Michael Ng - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks. But part of my question was how do you get values of x, y, z knowing A=12, B=24. Thank you.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Niranjan Khanderia I just set x = 0 x=0 then solved for y + z = 12 , y z = 24 y+z=12, yz=24 to give variables that satisfy the conditions. There are infinitely many different solutions; I just gave an example where x = 0 x=0 to show that the minimum was possible.

Michael Ng - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Michael Ng Thank you. I got it.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 4 months ago
Lu Chee Ket
Feb 3, 2015

With x y z + (x + y)(y + z)(z + x) = (x + y + z)(x y + y z + z x), {Identity by Daniel Liu }

x y + y z + z x = (x + y + z)^2/ (x + y + z - 6)

Basically, S^2/ (S - 6) >= 24 with S > 6 and (x y + y z + z x) is positive.

With z = 0, I actually simulated and found at least (0.00, 2.45, 9.80) for 24.01,

x y = (x + 24/ x)^2/ (x + 24/ x - 6) = 24

x^4 - 24 x^3 + 192 x^2 - 576 x + 576 = 0 {Over expanded.}

(x^2 - 12 x + 24)^2 = 0

[(x - 6)^2 - 12]^2 = 0

[x - 6 + 2 Sqrt (3)]^2 [x - 6 - Sqrt (3)]^2 = 0

Hence, with

x = 2 (3 - Sqrt (3)) = 2.535898384862245412945107

y = 2 (3 + Sqrt (3)) = 9.464101615137754587054893

z = 0

Substitute into original equations, satisfied. Therefore minimum of x y + y z + z x = 24.

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