More fun in 2015, Part 26

Calculus Level 4

L = 2016 lim n ( n 2016 / 2015 k = 1 n 2 k 1 2015 ) L=2016\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(n^{-2016/2015}\sum_{k=1}^{n}\sqrt[2015]{2k-1}\right) Find the integer nearest to L L .


The answer is 2016.

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Otto Bretscher
Oct 29, 2015

n 2016 / 2015 k = 1 n 2 k 1 2015 n^{-2016/2015}\sum_{k=1}^{n}\sqrt[2015]{2k-1} is the midpoint Riemann sum k = 1 n f ( x k ) Δ x \sum_{k=1}^{n}f(x_k)\Delta {x} of f ( x ) = 2 x 2015 f(x)=\sqrt[2015]{2x} on the interval [ 0 , 1 ] [0,1] with n n subintervals, with mesh size Δ x = 1 n \Delta{x}=\frac{1}{n} and x k = k 1 / 2 n x_k=\frac{k-1/2}{n} .

Thus L = 2016 2 2015 0 1 x 2015 d x = 2015 2 2015 2016 L=2016\sqrt[2015]{2}\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt[2015]{x}dx=2015\sqrt[2015]{2}\approx \boxed{2016}

Moderator note:

Riemann sums is a good way of dealing with non-polynomial/trigonometric summations that we don't have a simple telescoping approach of working through.

Oh of course! MIDDLE Riemann Sum! The 1 -1 term was blocking my work and I thought Riemann Sum is not approachable.

Instead of 2 k 1 2k-1 , is there a way to solve for 3 k 1 3k-1 with Riemann Sum as well?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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sure... you can make a Riemann sum with x k = k 1 / 3 n x_k=\frac{k-1/3}{n} and consider f ( x ) = 3 x 2015 f(x)=\sqrt[2015]{3x}

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

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But this doesn't look like a MIDDLE Riemann Sum. Right? What's the limits in the integral?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh In a Riemann sum, we can pick the point x k x_k anywhere on the k k th interval ... here we choose it 2/3 along the way.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher Really? You can do that? So the integral is still 0 1 x 1 / 2015 d x \int_0^1 x^{1/2015} \, dx ?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Yes, indeed. Think about it: All these Riemann sums are squeezed between the upper and the lower sum, so, they all have the same limit.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher Oh! That's a nice interpretation of Riemann Sum! I didn't consider that thought! Thank you!!!

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh While a agree with what you guys are saying, IMO thinking of it in terms of the "2/3 point Riemann sum" complicates the matter. It is better instead to translate the function and use g ( x ) = f ( 3 x 2 ) g(x) = f(3x-2)

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 7 months ago

@Pi Han Goh I want to thank you for the interesting dialogue and for your valiant efforts to teach me (about Otto Stolz etc.).

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher NO PROBLEM sir! You've taught me way much more on roots of unity.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 7 months ago
Pi Han Goh
Oct 29, 2015

Stolz Lemma can handle this.

Let a n = k = 1 2 k 1 2015 \displaystyle a_n = \sum_{k=1}^\infty \sqrt[2015]{2k-1} and b n = n 2016 / 2015 b_n = n^{2016/2015} .

So a n a n 1 = ( 2 n 1 ) 1 / 2015 a_n - a_{n-1} = (2n-1)^{1/2015} and b n b n 1 = n 2016 / 2015 ( n 1 ) 2016 / 2015 = 2016 2015 n 1 / 2015 + b_n - b_{n-1} = n^{2016/2015} - (n-1)^{2016/2015} = \dfrac{2016}{2015}n^{1/2015} + \ldots .

We evaluate the limit:

lim n a n a n 1 b n b n 1 = lim n ( 2 n 1 ) 1 / 2015 2016 2015 n 1 / 2015 + = 2 1 / 2015 lim n n 1 / 2015 2016 2015 n 1 / 2015 + = 2 1 / 2015 2015 2016 \begin{aligned} \lim_{n\to\infty} \dfrac {a_n-a_{n-1}}{b_n - b_{n-1}} &=& \lim_{n\to\infty} \dfrac{(2n-1)^{1/2015}}{\frac{2016}{2015}n^{1/2015} + \ldots} \\ &=& \displaystyle 2^{1/2015} \lim_{n\to\infty} \dfrac{n^{1/2015}}{\frac{2016}{2015}n^{1/2015} + \ldots} \\ &=& 2^{1/2015} \cdot \dfrac{2015}{2016} \end{aligned}

which is a finite number, thus Stolz lemma is applicable. Thus the limit in questions is equal to 2016 2 1 / 2015 2015 2016 = 2 1 / 2015 2015 2016\cdot 2^{1/2015} \cdot \dfrac{2015}{2016} = 2^{1/2015}\cdot 2015 .

Now, I'm going to determine whether 2 1 / 2015 2015 2^{1/2015}\cdot 2015 is closer to 2015 or closer to 2016.

We find the cut-off number: 2015.5 2015.5 . Upon division, 2015.5 ÷ 2015 1.000248 2015.5 \div 2015 \approx 1.000248 . So it's sufficient to prove that if 2 1 / 2015 > 1.0002 2^{1/2015} > 1.0002 , then the desired answer is 2016.

By Bernoulli Expansion, ( 1 + x ) n 1 + n x (1+x)^n \approx 1 + nx for small n n . In this case, x = 1 , n = 1 2015 x = 1, n=\frac1{2015} . Upon substitution, we can see that 2 1 / 2015 2^{1/2015} is indeed larger than 1.0002 1.0002 , thus the answer is 2016 \boxed{2016} .

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